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yeah if the berry field on the left wasn't creeping up so much could expand the stew area easily. The Sheep pen was tiny but actually wasn't too bad, getting a basket down was the worst part since every time I clicked on a tile a sheep walked into it, but even that only took few extra seconds.

Eh rather than blackboards or village leadera craftsman should ask for an apprentice when they start getting older. I have done this when relocating a forge, asked for apprentice and a child offered. When they were done smelting all the loose iron with me, i let them take over tool construction and finished the floors and walls. Went pretty well. Too often people don't try and pass the torch and either die while doing their jobs or stop and just walk away.

Organization downfall is a symptom of not enough storage tech. There is only so much that can be expected so I usually try to plan out things so it can't even happen in the first place. Only when I see an opportunity to do a side project like this, will I take the chance. Been a bit since setting up secondary pie building because other tasks are important, or I just felt like doing something else. Just a bit ago literally spent my entire life cutting down trees because I enjoyed too many trees. From age three to like 55 I just cut trees and hauled them back to the edge of town. Anyone that was born into that town for many many generations afterwards could make whatever they wanted.

Because I was the lumberjack.

Sticking to one thing is hard, but the affects are massive for much longer into the generations. Yeah I could be smithing or baking, tending to the sheep or doing compost. If those jobs are being done with any sort of competence, the town during my time will be okay. I have been trying to establish good berry farms, well placed and organized bakeries, tailor stations just for clothes storage. EVERYTHING does not need to be in the damn nursery. Setting things up neatly can definitely have a psychological impact of, do other people even want to take care of this town?

Really love how we are getting into how the metric of iron vs food and soil vs food is important. We have gauged food only versus iron for awhile, but its becoming obvious that there are other ways to look at it. By examining these numbers and thinking about player traits, things like the subject idea could be possible, and not only with meta communication such as discord.

You can't have a no gooseberry town really. You need them for compost and sheep, although you could get lucky and get really good natural clusters of wild ones. It will eventually become a hassle and a planning annoyance as you can't remove them. Newer players that don't recognize pails of milk or crocks of stew, or even bowls of popcorn will die. Sure big deal, but they might have lived long enough to birth einstein that would do enough work to push the lineage 20+ generations, you never know. Always best to have as many as possible make it. You need some... but not always the dozens and dozens that are common.

Better idea or challenge "How little can you get by with"

You can start a brand new eve camp and get by with a 3x3 for a long time if you start getting pies going. I have had lives that I had rabbit pies going off natural wheat, planted the next batch from that, and had those pies ready before the berries were ready. I planted the berries the second we had bowls, splitting the soil afterwards and moving the seeds mostly then. If the task is taken on fully, you can always easily get rabbit pies ready before berries using natural resources. Once you have a bowl ready to make flour and water it, you just need to throw them together and boom a pie is made instantly, bonus points if the oven is heating up while you are firing the bowls. In that fashion, you could totally get away with skipping a bigger berry field until sheep or too many kids floating around.

What I really want to do is start a new camp with tools (colonizing the wilds coming from an established town) and push milk right away. If you start the camp with all the tools you need to make buckets, why not plant corn as first crop and live off milk until you stabilize the rest.

All of these things are razor edge, but heavily plausible, just a matter of balancing the bat right. Carrots are appealing but will chew up all the soil and skewers in the area, bananas risk bites etc.... It could always work but just little harder

I agree with you on making it more easily determinable of which pie is which, but I still think it comes down to an organizational object. One of my best experiences in the game was making a secondary bakery that was ONLY for pies outside of mutton. I only baked rabbit because there was active trappers and tailors so there was a great deal of rabbit to deal with. Every time anyone tried to bring mutton down, it was immediately taken away way with a scolding. My children and any that wanted to take to that cloth, also preached that message. This was a specialty bakery, not for normal pies.

There will always be a place for pies outside of mutton, but they need to be at the right time, and it needs its own area. A separate bakery is essential if you are going to start producing those pies, especially so if rabbits are steadily coming into the village because someone is making clothes. For the most part, it didn't make a huge difference. There were plenty of mutton pies to live off of, and most went there to refresh their backpacks. But to those that new they could snag 4+ yum bonus if they stopped by, it was huge. Until we have former kitchens, where food storage and food production are in separate buildings, you have to have two bakeries.

There is a difference between modding FOV and changing the aspect ratio. OHOL is native 16:9, and 21:9 is bugged and throws off the cursor as well. Jason is aware but debugging it is hard without havong a ultrawide himself. I change my desktop to 16:9 from 21:9 to play on my monitors because both of them are UHD displays. One day it will get fixed.

I totally agree. Even before the using up the natural resources things... They are new the game... none of those outposts are going to make it. That's not an expedition it's an exile. If anything when a town reaches a certain point that they contain decent staples and some higher tech; pie, stew, clothes, newcommen wells, horse carts, they should start gearing up for new camps. Track down and get bunch of horses, send out veteran females as soon as they can ride with a cart full of tools, fully clothed with backpack full of pies. Super charged eve camps, you have a horse cart and one of every tool at your disposal where ever you decide to settle. Most vets could set down quite a camp pretty quickly if they had a good spot and 4-6 mutton pies as back up food before the grow happened. I would say that would be the best shot to naturally beat the boots line, rather than a meta method such as discord. Plus newer players might end up getting to see and build a town up because it would happen over a smaller amount of generations. At the moment either its just starting out, or its got everything already. Rarely do I have the feeling when I am in a pretty small town, that feels like its going to make it and I can start to see how it might be laid out. They either are stalled because no one is starting to build anything, or on the edge of collapsing, just waiting for the first domino. More often I see the same town or civ multiple times. Might take a sec but you see it, its been around awhile.

Buildings take time, and don't exactly serve a purpose. They help with heat, but it can be a little wonky. Amazing for nursery, three pickups per baby is possible (I get picked up ALL the time when I am missing one bar of hunger. I bet some kids hit F when still at 3 bars or even more, wastes food), can store clothes there so they can go on new babies. For everything else, its for organization and feeling. People want to invest their time and energy, give their all, when the picture they are working on is at least a little pretty. The psychological value of having a organized settlemen  is huge, makes some people say "yeah i'll give it a shot there, and I am gonna try hard to do something", getting that going sooner is a nice plus. It could appeal to both markets of those that hate eve camps and /die out and the ones that prefer them and /die out of towns. To one side, you are a new camp, but you can start building floors and walls right away, to the other, you are a new camp that has a much higher chance at surviving, seems like a win win.

On another serious note, one I am sorry took a bit to respond I work a ton on weekends, two I meant that comment in complete humor. I actually was laughing hard. I get what you are saying and agree on every single note you have made, and I have mad respect for the time and thought you have put into the game and forums. I just had a conversation after that post with my roommate about how everyone can and is a PoS in some way, and understanding that is half the battle if your goal is to improve yourself. I would favor an self acknowledged asshole any and every day over an asshat that has no idea they are one. I rarely like my opinions until I have an outside point of view first, hence why I made this whole post before even opening the configuator for macros. I felt a desire to use it, thought about if it was really necessary or if I should change my habits first. What people thought about it, was it pointless or intriguing, would actually weigh into a decision to utilize it or not. Thank you for your input and perspective, look forward to playing with you in game sometime. I know by now we have to had some time already, but thats part of the beauty of the game, I don't for sure know if we have or not, but its not super important to know. Take it easy Pein, and if you think you triggered me... Try harder

Hehe just pictured being a little kid and seeing my mom say a bunch of random out of context things that don't make any sense, and then tell me it's for later. Would be a funny picture.

I would never begin to even think of doing a deathbed speech, I would want to and do put feeling in that, but you are right it would be done by some or many. When I thought of doing it, it was after doing a few eve runs in a row. There were a few moments over those three to four hours that I felt like I had a bunch of kids huddled around me, and I wanted to issue a few quick orders, play Eve coach. But I was also firing up twelve pieces of pottery and trying to get the charcoal afterwards, or making the first axe and shovel with one firing of the kiln because kindling is low and I can not afford to miss a tool. The second I am done and I say plant 3x3 berry patch and  two plots of carrots, boom they all scatter and stuff starts getting done. Granted this was once in awhile, but made me think, what if one keystroke could be a quick command to someone I am running by real quick on the next task. I realize that my original outlay of the idea seemed more to replace normal conversation now that I read it again, which is not my intention.

I guess I think of things like teaching some one smithing, its fast paced and watching someone do it at the speed you should be going is very helpful. They unfortunately can't talk you through each step easily, and have to either walk you through before or afterwards. If pressing a quick key as you are firing three ingots to say "make sure you hit each one once to reset the cooldown" would just make teaching them a little easier. I look at is a tool for specific circumstances to aid productivity and knowledge to my family even when I am feeling too busy. My other options felt like either slow down what I was doing, or be rather silent as I have. The first being worrisome because sometimes the first berries being couple minutes late could mean everyone starving, the second because you are a robot - silently and efficiently doing some major groundwork for a new camp. I thought about finding a middle ground, still haven't written any of them yet to the keys, because even I am unsure of it, just because you have an idea, doesn't mean its a good one.

As far as having a fricken auto correct to stop you saying mean and vulgar things to people... please tell me its a joke, thats soo bad man.

P.S Fourth option - be better about finding better times to get my message out and type on the fly - new keyboard and its fun to mess with macros and lighting effects

I spawned on low pop servers and eve chained over and over and over to teach myself. Also if you are learning, leaving a camp as a boy and going out into the wilds and starting a one man camp is a good idea. No kid pressure, low food needed. You can easily get to compost or carts if the resources aren't really spread out. If you can live to 60 on your own every life you decide, you will be good in a camp with others.

Oh nice the Zappa family went for a bit, I was in there at Gen 7, did most of the baking and shepherding during that time. Good too see it lasted half a day.