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#251 Re: Main Forum » Toot Diaspora » 2018-11-16 17:46:30

Floofy wrote:

'Ancestor Unknown' usually happens when there was a server glitch and someone got kicked out.

I figured it was probably something like that, I've just never seen it before. smile

#252 Re: Main Forum » Just posted this guide over on Steam » 2018-11-16 17:24:47

PeaGirl wrote:

Well, that is probably it's point. If it is too boring to read, people perhaps either stop reading it, thank god if they look for wiki or onetech.

I know The Compost Cycle is long. It's something that would be sung by workers in the fields to their nearby children in the real world. Here, of course, it's just text, and so it looks intimidating.

I'll try to get them recorded in the next few weeks; that should make it more accessible to people.

Oh, and the muse hit last night, after the kid asked if I was going to write a song cursing the berry-gobblers. Well... not cursing, but painting them in a bad light: Gobble-uns!

This one is shorter, I promise. smile

#253 Re: Main Forum » Toot Diaspora » 2018-11-16 08:04:35

Boy, that is weird. Searching for 'Grover Toot' gets me a listing of your sibs and your offspring... but it's showing 'Ancestor Unknown' for some reason, and your Eve should be long dead. Server glitch, maybe?j

EDIT TO ADD: Looks like you got another 5 generations (great-great-great-grandchildren) through your youngest daughter, Striker III. Not too shabby.

#254 Re: Bug Discussion » Charcoal pencil dissappearing when drawing die » 2018-11-16 08:01:37

GreatShawn wrote:

I was just wandering around on OneTech again... and I came across another weird phenomenon. When a charcoal pencil and a blank die were being put together the charcoal pencil dissappears, leaving a drawn die. So is this made on purpose or it is a bug?

That's the recipe to create a die - charcoal pencil in hand + blank die = marked die + empty hand

#255 Re: Main Forum » 3 Suggestions and my experience with the game so far » 2018-11-16 07:58:46

pein wrote:

he even told that wants to make it harder, not easier, a child should be a sacrifice
now people see that tiny cute helpless thing, and they cant let it die, even if they are told not to
so choosing not to have or not to have so many would be good, not toal control, but some form of enhance or disabling, a plant with minimal nutrition but special effect like shrooms, this wouldn't suely work but would push into right direction and it would need skill and time to affect it

Something like pennyroyal, then. (It's a natural abortifacient/menstrual flow starter.) In RL, it can cause miscarriages (but seems to be too toxic to reliably induce abortion without damage to the mother). In OHOL, it could give you a guaranteed 5 minutes of birth cooldown, perhaps? In order to make it not simple (because simple birth control would make things too easy), let's say it needs to be picked... dried... crushed in a bowl... water added... boiled to make tea. A female who drinks it gets her birth cooldown activated (if it wasn't before), and the duration set to maximum. If this means you miss out on the child that could have saved your line, well, it was your choice.

#256 Re: Main Forum » Roast battle! » 2018-11-16 07:44:11

Now, I twinned with GreatShawn once, and let me tell you, he was a great help. I've never had a backpack that quickly before. We roamed around, grabbing resources to make a camp... and then he dropped dead. He was so mad... he'd been chewing milkweed stalks for the milk!

#257 Re: Main Forum » I'm trying! » 2018-11-16 00:12:16

Catfive wrote:

What a night... got compost going, from scratch ofc.. one guy says "dont pick carrots we need seeds" which would be fair enough if there wasn't 50 just by the forge big_smile saw a griefer interfere with a forge trying to get first tools, I mean wtf? How miserable do you have to be to grief what is basically an eve camp? couldn't find knife and was old already. no bow in sight or I'd have fixed them wink Saw camps with zero water or food for miles..

But then, taught a few basic bits here and there, had plenty of nubs ask for help. I knew it was going to be rough but it's still great smile
I feel like I've done another day's work..

'I am mom' best line to date for an eve haha

Heh. I was Fields II. Our Eve was named Eve Dyl... but none of her descendants had last names. Wanna guess why? smile

#259 Re: Main Forum » I'm trying! » 2018-11-15 22:05:26

Ultimate child of Eve Mom name: Octo

#260 Re: Main Forum » A little concern » 2018-11-15 19:31:19

Booklat1 wrote:

i've found the first 3 iron pretty easily in a camp yesterday. Also got an eve spawn near a mine but didn't play that life.

We need to collect more data, people. But i kinda like that right now we're in bad camp hell.

I picked up 2 iron while looking for milkweed and food on an Eve run today (two separate trips), but that was all I saw in the small badland zones near my campsite. Those weren't as far out as a minute, though... more like 20-25 seconds - so there may well have been more a bit farther out.

#261 Re: Main Forum » 3 Suggestions and my experience with the game so far » 2018-11-15 18:49:34

denriguez wrote:
gabal wrote:

Maybe I'm a bit biased as I remember the times when items didn't stack at all and the fact that we can now stack plates still makes me happy when I see it. Items stacking is the way forward and I hope we'll get more such options in the future. I really hope we'll get ability to stack mutton next or at least place it into basket.

This is unrelated but I'm imagining a group of prehistoric scientists diligently studying item stacking technology.

Test number 1: flat rock does not stack on top of stone
Test number 11: flat rock does not stack on top of berry bush
Test number 111: flat rock does not stack on top of rattlesnake, lab assistant dead

--- text of a stone tablet found in Mesopotamia

#262 Re: Main Forum » Just posted this guide over on Steam » 2018-11-15 17:31:33

rhiser wrote:
Starknight_One wrote:
Monolith_Rans wrote:

feel free to add to this one.

Hmm... maybe. Nothing's really come to mind yet for Three Sisters In A Row, but I just finished the lyrics for The Compost Cycle, so it may take a day or two for the muse to start bugging me. smile

Would you say you have a specific muse? Perhaps an event, person, or concept? Must be a good one because this is eminem-quality flow right here^
Inspiration is something I always struggle to find for other work, but I agree on the usefulness of jingles in memorization, although for learning purposes this magnum opus may be a bit too lengthy tongue

It is, true, but it's awfully hard to compress this stuff and still have a decent rhyme scheme. And The Compost Cycle covers two types of crop and making compost, whereas The Berry Bush Song only deals with berries.

As for my muse, right now OHOL seems to be filling that role. smile

#263 Re: Main Forum » Just posted this guide over on Steam » 2018-11-15 16:12:22

Monolith_Rans wrote:

feel free to add to this one.

Hmm... maybe. Nothing's really come to mind yet for Three Sisters In A Row, but I just finished the lyrics for The Compost Cycle, so it may take a day or two for the muse to start bugging me. smile

#264 Re: Main Forum » Mini guide: what to eat (calories table, pips) /slightly outdated/ » 2018-11-15 15:58:27

pein wrote:

i would agree but based on experience its a bit different
lot of camps still use the same plates and bowls the eve made, or maybe one more set, and people leave empty plates outside, i can understand i would leave an empty plate for an extra iron, but no reason why would anyone leave it in savanah, when they dotn even bring back snares

One of my tasks when I'm scouting near town is to bring back bowls, plates, or tools that have been left where they're inconvenient. Once I found something like 30 rabbits that had been laid out, a partial pie, snares... they were about 30 seconds from town and nobody seemed to know they were there. Rabbit hunter and backpack maker became my job that life.

often  i just cook rabbit on skewers cause mutton is plenty as side effect, also eggs feel bad plate usage as they give one serving, even if its max value
when making baskets and hats, and too much compost at once without extra wheat field, equals a lot of treshed wheat, which is 90% of time means bread making, 10% well burritos, which kinda needs a setup of 1 fire, 13 flat rocks(so you can lay 12 dough on it and cook it after the 3 bean bowls) and some plates

a popcorn station needs to be  further so they dont eat the shucked corn ears early, after axe totally doable in the other side of the desert where you got tons of cut stumps
we should do some feeding areas, main reson berry is easy cause its like a table, all tiles are food
we should make 3x3 wooden tiles with food on it, have corn in basket and just put in bowls and into fire
corn is best against overeating, as kids get scared of beeping sound and eat, small bites of popcorn got a chance of wasting 1-2 pips, with berry is 2-4, i think it would make a difference

ofc that is not enough baskets and not enough bowls/plates

and people dont think like, oh we got axe, we can keep a fire going lets make a popcorn station

gotta experiment with burito, green beans and corn and post sceenshots

Looking forward to seeing your results. smile

#265 Re: Main Forum » Just posted this guide over on Steam » 2018-11-15 01:46:00

Okay, okay. So I wrote the next one...

The Compost Cycle

Now if my brain will start coming up with ideas for Three Sisters In A Row, I'll be able to rest... wink

#267 Re: Bug Discussion » can not pick item » 2018-11-14 22:26:51

Server 3 was hosed, servers 2-7 were about to be. Problem fixed now per Jason. Try, try again. smile

#268 Re: Main Forum » Letting us /die without needing to be held? » 2018-11-14 20:18:57

/die is meant to prevent you from being forced to stay in the mother's death-grip. If you really don't want to live that life, put the command in and don't hit Enter until your mother picks you up to feed you. If they just stuff you with food, then run off and starve... or better yet, annoy someone with a knife and let them stab you. smile

#269 Re: Main Forum » Looking for descendants of Twila II and Sky » 2018-11-14 20:09:46

I wasn't part of that lineage, but I like the story!

#270 Re: Main Forum » Mini guide: what to eat (calories table, pips) /slightly outdated/ » 2018-11-14 19:56:06

Elsayal wrote:

Correction :
01 calories Popcorn [4 uses] https://onetech.info/1121-Popcorn (2)

OneTech also says berries are 3 calories (food pips, whatever), but they give 5. There's a +2 bonus applied by the server.

#271 Re: Main Forum » Mini guide: what to eat (calories table, pips) /slightly outdated/ » 2018-11-14 19:54:37

pein wrote:
Starknight_One wrote:

8 types of pie in the oven, pein. Berry, carrot, berry carrot, rabbit, berry rabbit, carrot rabbit, berry carrot rabbit, mutton. But you knew that, probably just a typo.

yeah somehow i forgot rabbit pie, but yeah 1 by 1, 2 by 2 and all tree plus mutton

technically the trio pie is wasting resources, and the berry combos too

By wasting, do you mean because the large food value is inefficient at feeding people? Because a bowl of berries, a carrot and a rabbit (if cooked) is a grand total of 47 food pips, while a berry carrot rabbit pie is 80 food pips. (Admittedly, with the invisible +2, this one will always waste food; you can't get down to zero, and each piece gives 20 bars!) That's about a 70% increase in available food from making the pie; even if some is wasted, it's still a boost.

Berry pie is not so great, only a 33% increase (40/30). Carrot pie is very good: 300% increase in food value (28/7)!

Berry carrot = 60/37, 62% increase
Berry rabbit = 72/40, 80% increase
Carrot rabbit = 72/17, 324% increase
Rabbit pie = 56/10, 460% increase
Mutton pie = 60/12, 400% increase

Looking at these numbers, it appears that the best pies are, in order: Rabbit, mutton, carrot rabbit, and carrot. They all have very good food gains, and the values of the individual servings aren't so large as to be super-wasteful, if you're careful.

Those don't take into account the opportunity cost, of course. Some pies might be better avoided and the dough used to make bread, instead. That isn't calculated in these values, because every pie you make has to be weighed against that possibility. Of course, you need a knife for bread, so it won't always be a factor. But if you want, increase the denominator in each of the above by 16 (2 slices of bread) and recalculate. Obviously that makes berry pies totally not worth it (40/46 = -15%), but the rest are still viable.

#272 Re: Main Forum » Happy birthday Jman » 2018-11-14 19:03:50

Anshin wrote:

HAPPY BIRTHDAY!!!!
HAPPY BIRTHDAY!!!!
HAPPY HAPPY BIRTHDAY TO YOU!!!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EeX1bhmGMLw

cool cool cool cool cool cool cool cool cool cool cool cool cool cool cool cool cool cool cool cool

I prefer this one: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WsQO1jOXLeg

wink

#273 Re: Main Forum » Tips for learners. » 2018-11-14 12:58:04

It should also be noted that dried ears of corn can be used to make popcorn, which is great to have around for toddlers and the elderly. It also provides more total food value than just eating an ear of corn.

#274 Re: Main Forum » Death by backpack » 2018-11-14 12:53:05

Yes, it can be tricky. Once I ran in from foraging for branches, picked a berry and 'ate' it. I was still starving, another berry. Still starving, another berry... dead. I died of starvation with a backpack full of berries. (Normally I wouldn't eat that many, but they weren't doing anything for me!)

#275 Re: Main Forum » Happy birthday Jman » 2018-11-14 03:48:22

They say it's your birthday? Well happy birthday to you!

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