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Do they though? Wouldn't it be more productive for them to start another life so they are an active spawn for players? What are they learning past 40 that they can't learn in the next life?

Meant four as in four families total of each singular race. Obviously there are more than that sometimes but usually the family they are replacing are on the way out with the generational food mechanic.

If the amount of families adjusted with player population i doubt there would have been as many problems with the player influx.

The game has also been balanced for a small population. So when we have a large influx everything goes haywire. The population often drops off quickly though. Either due to the palatability of the game or the game being unbalanced for population growth. Maybe a mixture of the two.

Issue with no homeland + race restrictions was every fam just lived in the same town. So every life was in that town over and over.

When there were no race restrictions and no homeland it was super rare to have families living together, but it did happen and was pretty awesome.

The issue i see is that as long as we have race restrictions we will need strong families around to provide the resources. That's why we have the family limit to basically four. This also reduces the diversity of towns you spawn into since there are fewer options.

People were also so desperate to experience early game that they would leave town making pseudo eve settlements.

I think a big issue was people played favorites with fams and one would often be the favorited one. Often because people started projects or had some personal ties in those families.

Infrastructure still happened and people would build roads. I honestly haven't seen extreme changes in regards to roads. Even then it probably has more to do with the introduction of the paver than the fact biome restrictions exist. Plus walled cities used to be important to reduce the risk of theft and etc. Which honestly was a strong point in the game. Currently walls play no purpose but to keep people warm and even then the space you can contain with that is too small to be a reasonable workspace.

As long as we try and squash issue or behavior with "fixes" or mechanics to force the desired behavior we will limit the diversity of the game. We should be asking why are people behaving in this way and what are they missing that drives them to behave the way that they do.

I would prefer to see the fabric of the game influence by unfiltered player behavior than by mechanics.

Lets be real. If the world came to an end and we had to survive in a similar way to ohol, would things happen the same way they do in the game in its current state. People wouldn't trade unless there was a serious benefit to it, which there isnt. The current benefit is just being punished if you dont do it. Not what i would call unfiltered player behavior.

I think its more the case of the splashy title on a news article to get people to read it.

I hear you though. Pre rift/pre war swords was a great time for the game. Griefing also seemed to be less common then as well. But maybe i was just new and didnt notice as much.

I had given up hope as well and I thought for a long time we were stuck with tool slots as well but that was recently changed. A lot of good changes have been happening tbo. Its hard not to hope for more good changes and push for the ones you want.

Race restrictions have always left a bad taste in my mouth. Anything that makes me have to explain to a new player that i cant teach them ice cream because they're black is just..

At any rate i agree that considering alternatives would be nice. Maybe something that encourages behavior instead of forcing it. Restrictions being tied into water production is a bit much imo. And honestly anything that's tied to race is going to be touchy.

Yea no one trades. Everyone is just forced to share to even get anything done.

Ever had one of those lives you just wana do something fun in town but have to travel almost your entire life collecting resources from other fams just to do it?

And by the time you have collected it, after a frustrating experience of chasing people around with a piece of paper, you're too old to even do what you wanted to do.

Thats trade for you. Its boring, monotonous, and really just a wall to slow players down. The interactions we get from it are artificial.

You question if we play the game but i question if you played the game prior to the addition of race restrictions.

No one would have problems with SIDs if they didnt drop bones. 2 min can be a long time when 300 people are on the server.

If you actually pay attention biome restrictions send a dark message. As much as this game plays off gingers as being a race, they're not. Its a recessive gene among whites. Ive avoided bringing this up, to avoid what will likely happen but here goes.

In terms of pure tech progression:

Blacks make sulfur and horses.

Browns make latex and palm kernels.

Whites can speak good?

Ginger can make oil. Once they do they can make more oil, and more oil and more..

What does oil make? Water and iron. What does that make? Food and everything else. Past the first oil pump gingers never need any of the other races besides for tires and belts for engines. Once they have enough engines and trucks they dont need the other races. Rubber is basically useless. Ive avoided bringing this up for obvious reasons. Jason will likely nerf engines, oil, iron, trucks, etc. Instead of removing a stupid system he seems to think is great for the game.

Its time to wake up. Biome restrictions are broken and add nothing to the game beyond making families reliant on each other. Reduces the risk of having one fam be dominant while others struggle. Which is a community problem, not a mechanical problem. You should be asking yourself why are people gravitating to *this* fam in comparison to the others instead of asking how to force people to gravitate to these fams instead of this one.

Being a race used to be a feature, not some type of racist mechanic that is completely unbalanced.

But yea back to the dark message. Blacks and browns are to be used by whites until they reach a certain tech tier then they are completely expendable. Huh.. very woke jason. Im sure this is some progressive statement about history and abuse towards minorities. If not.......

What's the difference between that and having no gate though. Back in the rift/no biome restrictions it made sense since the only time suck was letting someone in or out, which wasn't an issue if you managed ownership properly. The only places gates have is when families are self reliant. Otherwise they are just a waste of time. Dead content as far as I'm concerned. Right along side crude cars, planes, and bonsais.

Honestly i think going back to more families that have smaller populations that are self reliant is a better option. Would stabilize the issue when there is a huge influx of players.

The biggest pressure in this game is people. The more people you have the harder it is to maintain things. It also makes people who arnt contributing to maintenance a liability. Puts a huge amount of pressure on experienced players and the town is likely to drown in the high demand the population requires. Smallish fams are relatively easy to maintain and give great opportunities to teach.

Most people who manage the biome restriction maintenance are experienced enough to teach but are forced to travel around their entire lives just to keep their family stable. So again new players are thrown under the bus.

Jason, its time to consider if you want a game that can capture an audience or one that you can test bench against a small population of experienced players.

People dont build fences because there really isn't any reason to with the game in its current climate. Any time that would be gained from using a town fence for dealing with griefers would be lost ten fold.

If you forgot, every family is completely reliant on one another. Having fences up is only going to slow down or even disable families from sharing resources. Ever ran around a town fence whistling at people and no one comes? Not to mention someone having to spend a good portion of their life repairing the fence every other generation.

This is why i built stone walls in the rift. A generation or two builds it and future generations never have to touch it again.

Time is wasted when someone wants in or out. Town fences and walls were only important in the rift because there were tons of people trying to raid and steal from towns, kill off families, etc. With biome restrictions families cant play selfishly anymore and succeed. So creating barriers between your family and others is pointless. Its hard enough to communicate with other families over resources, no ones going to make that even more difficult by putting a literal wall in the way.

Yea i feel you destiny. It wont likely solve the problem, not sure anything will, but it could potentially alleviate it some. Pvp is a pretty huge part of most survival games so i think a lot of players coming in expect a similar thing in ohol. Raids and griefers are super common in games like ark and rust.

I think there will always be a small niche that purely wants to ruin other people's experience. But i think they will be rare and will be easier to manage when its only a few still playing like that.

Before the kill mechanic change 90% of the griefing i saw was just random stabbings and griefers being dramatic. It was super rare i ran into one that was sabotaging the town. Obviously engine scrapping and removing engines from wells hasnt helped. There probably should be some QOL change to make those risks less likely. (Only elders can scrap engines, chain an engine to a well that require an elder removal notice, etc)

I think some people just want blood. If we can give them what they desire and in a way that doesnt damage anyone else's experience i think thats a win for everyone. One person going to war against another is two less people who might have been inclined to grief.

Lol. Completely misunderstood what i meant but ok. Let me spell it out for you.

They need an outlet that they enjoy that isnt ruining the game for everyone else.