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I understand the intent, I'm just going through some of the questions that need to be answered before such a thing could be implemented. Even if the idea is just that non-switchable items (a berry on a bush, for example) will trigger you to throw what you have 'in hand', you need to figure out what the game considers 'in hand'. Since you can't eat or pick anything up on a horse, or while using a cart, they're probably considered to be 'in hand' for the purposes of the game. Thus, trying to grab a berry while on a horse would trigger this metarecipe (unless they weren't included, which is a possibility). If you restrict it to small items, like seeds and berries, what happens when you have a shovel in your hand and need a berry quickly? You're in the same boat you were in before, although obviously it's easier to see a shovel than a cabbage seed.

I'm pointing out that what looks like a simple solution has ramifications that need to be considered, just like in the real world. It's just that here, most of the ramifications deal with unintended interactions because everything has to be programmed.

Two thoughts: first, shouldn't it be Lorrot? B, Lorrot should be a carrot wearing a carrot crown. (Aurora Aurora, I expect a picture of this.)

Doesn't really matter... the wild bush will regrow, the domestic needs to be tended.

Perhaps she meant Virginia? *shrug*

I guess Jim said it best: People are strange when you're a stranger.

John, Paul, and Ringo's autographs are hidden near other objects in the camp. Can you find them?

Uh... you can't fire pottery or make charcoal in an oven. That takes a kiln. Ovens can only be used to bake things, which cannot be done in a kiln.

Ah, The Compost Cycle. And the third part of the trilogy, Three Sisters In A Row. Which leads to the cooking songs...

Umm. I'm gonna need help writing all these.

Were you a Goon too?

I was so discouraged after that life, I went through the tutorial again. Did you know Jason added a section to explain the Spacebar freeze-frame? You can make your first sledge earlier now. And I found a decent spot for a minimal camp nearby. The biomes around that tutorial were actually pretty decent. Hope I get a chance to spawn there soon.

Pretty much the same as Multi, although I still haven't mastered surviving to 60 most of the time. Although I did do 3 Eve runs on an empty server, surviving to 60 each time and building up my base. Sadly, my 4th run ended with me starving at 57... I misjudged how far I had to go to the berry bush.

Extensive reading of recipes on OneTech and a good memory means I generally know what I need to do. I've practiced smithing in the tutorial several times and I'm still unhappy with my ability, but I can escape the tutorial if I want and can survive to 60 there without any problem. I'm extremely confident in my ability to farm and cook. I've done very little woodwork, but nothing seems particularly tricky there... it's just a matter of learning the recipes. Since my second time through the tutorial, I've turned the boxes into sledges and hauled food and branches to the end area so I can focus on smithing, and I know how to make a box and a bucket. I can figure the rest out if I need to.

Is this better?

The one on the right is my attempt to shrink it to better fit in your field of view in-game. It's a bit cramped to my mind, though.

Well I haven't built any of them yet. It's just theorycrafting at this point. I'll need to be born into a fairly advanced village to be able to abscond with the resources needed to build one. Either that, or get lucky with my children as an Eve.

(See, I'm a big LOTR geek. So this design is what I call my 'Marchwarden's camp', after the flets the Marchwardens of Lothlorien had built in the trees along the edge of the Golden Wood. Since we can't build *in* a tree, I decided to set it up as a room made of trees.)

The idea is that a civilization could build these near concentrations of resources that are useful - like, say, an extensive savannah with many rabbits - and then people going to snare rabbits would have a place to eat and process their catch. I've also toyed with the idea of tiling them together - if you connect 4 of them at the entry points in a square, it creates a sort of cruciform room in between them as well.

The blocking terrain could literally be anything - stove bases, fences, whatever. I put 'tree' above because I like the idea of a perennial source of branches so I never have to worry about finding them for kindling or tools. Plus having maple leaves and juniper tinder helps if your fire goes out. And everything inside can be shifted around. Put two of them together, do all your farming in one and put your sheep in the second. Make a cluster of four, farm two, cook in the middle, smith in one and put woodworking in the other.

Early designs had many more berry bushes... but looking at the numbers, I decided it was better to keep them to a minimum. Newbies may freak out, but it might also be a good way to teach them the value of diversifying food intake and therefore production.

Sorry about the premature post.

This is an idea I've been tooling around with. I designed it as sort of a one-man outpost, but it could easily be the basis of a distributed farming system.

Each 30 minutes it can produce:
8 mutton pies
5 pots of stew
3 bowls of popcorn
11 berries and 6 carrots not needed for anything

That's 1451 food points based on OneTech values, not counting the invisible +2 bonus. (Adding that gives another 282 food points for a total of 1733). Water runs on a positive cycle with 4 wells (31 bowls used). Soil is handled by composting; a cycle produces 26 extra soil (22 used out of 48 generated). Each cycle uses .44 iron. You could just use the extra soil and water to pop more berries, if you really needed them, or grow more carrots. You could even skip composting every other cycle and use the straw to make a basket.

Diversifying your pies a bit in the interest of Yum bonus, you can do:
4 mutton pies
3 berry carrot pies
1 loaf bread (unless you can't make bread from one use of dough anymore - make another pie then)
5 pots of stew
3 bowls of popcorn
5 berries and 5 carrots not needed for anything
1 leftover straw

This way uses 1 less bowl of water, and only generates one compost pile at a time; that gives 0 water and 2 soil left over each cycle with 3 wells. Iron use is slightly less at .415. This generates 1424 food (+276 invisible bonus) every 30 minutes.

                  x
               x  b  x
      x  x  x  x     x  x  x  x
      x  s     p     m  l  l  x
      x  p  p  b     m  l  l  x
   x  x  h  h     a     l  l  x  x	
x  b  h  h  h                    b  x
   x  x  d                    x  x	
      x  w  w        t  *  t  x		
      x  c  c  o        r  r  x		
      x  x  x  x     x  x  x  x		
               x  b  x
                  x						
a-adobe oven; b-berry bush; c-carrot field
d-dirt pile;	h-squash field; l-bean field
m-corn field; o-compost pile; p-pond/well; r-food storage basket
s-sheep; t-stew pot; x-blocking tile (tree); *-fire			

Edited: corrected water math, forgot to include water for making dough in my calculations.

Quibbling a bit, don't you think? It would eventually become domesticated, yes. But that process takes years - sometimes lifetimes - of effort in crossbreeding. Meanwhile, wild seeds are spread by birds/animals and just fall into ready soil and sprout... so why is it different that the seeds fall into a row you've purposely tilled? This proposal would give a chance for wild carrots to become domesticated... it just wouldn't happen automatically the first time every time.

So maybe at first, a soil row only lets you grow 3 or 4 wild carrots, but you can grow them. This is still a boost to food for an Eve camp, even if it's not as big as the boost carrots currently give. Then you get a domestic seed from one of them (chance to be determined, could be from an actual wild carrot plant even). This lets you grow the superior domestic carrots - they can be crowded closer together, so you get 5 per row. And maybe we can someday breed an even better carrot that can grow even closer together, for more carrots per plot.

This would require a different seed - probably just a color change, really - to distinguish between wild carrot seed and domestic carrot seed, and new artwork for grown and seeding wild carrot rows, but much could be reused from existing artwork.

True, wild carrots should be less nutritious, but... isn't surviving hard enough already? :)

As to the original proposal... I'd be in favor of it. It'd certainly be more true-to-life than pulling corn kernels and squash seeds from a seeding cabbage.

I know that. But the credentials need to be sent to the server, and the way they are displayed in the client has changed since I last logged in. Since I am unable to log in now, I thereby surmise there *might* - not must - *might* be a connection. However, I did indicate that I felt it was a small probability.

I recreated this and recorded it. Relevant section of the video is here: https://youtu.be/WPWAvgdvIsk