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The math in this thread shows how important clothes are. We are focusing on, full clothes don't make my meter perfect so therefor I don't see the point in them, instead of comparing the numbers. A good number comparison to see would be Food Consumption: Naked vs Fully Clothed in each biome. I made this mistake and realized I was wrong, this thread and the math shows how wrong I was. Sure your meter isn't perfect everywhere decked out in clothes, but you are still consuming a fraction of the food you would without, which is not as easy to notice in game.

Where are you getting these facts from? Rats became a problem when humans starting agriculture which is roughly 10,000-11,000 years ago. The first undisputed case of a domesticated dog that was buried with it's "owner" was 14,200 years ago, long before agriculture. First time we have noticed a cat buried with its "owner" was about 9,500 years ago - which fits the rise of agriculture way better. Cave depictions from the stone age show hunters leashed to canines, I am just gonna go ahead and say they were hunting partners LONG before vermin control, hence why we purposefully bred dogs for that reason rather than it being a natural feature.

If rats were added 100% it would because disease is added and they are carriers. There is no denying that was the main problem with rat infestations is that they carry zoonotic diseases, and did so rampantly during certain booms of human population and agriculture increases. The fact you don't feel strongly about this makes me wonder how much thought has been involved, and what angle you are coming from. Do you want rats added because its a cool introduction and can bring in communicable diseases, or simply to combat unorganized camps. You say shouldn't be there to force people to clean but its the only real point you referenced in your thread, multiple times. You say you want rats to be viable, but you yourself don't even know why you want them to be. Not trying to rip you apart, just asking questions and mentioning things I see so you can think about it.

Animals right now are considered objects. When a player is nearby they become active and the server does its work. When no one is nearby they shut off, and become a rock, while the server does other work. EVERY single rat that EVER spawns will have to be managed and path'd and "drawn" by the server because they would be spawned in bases as per your suggestion. It would be one of the biggest hits you could add to the server for an animal. Having an exact goal for adding them, and coming up with alternative means is important.

"Big" bases have this problem because the sheer lack of management and tidyness makes them big for no reason. No real advanced villages that contain most of the available tech have an item on every tile, because people manage them like that. The Forge is its own room with walls and chests, far from the kitchen. The kitchen is lined with chests, and people drop off their plates inside it when they pass by, which is then stacked by the kitchen worker. This constant attention keeps them clean, and newer players seeing this end up following eventually. Gonna live to 60 this play thru? When those last fives years when you need to be near food to not starve - teach the babies and clean up some stuff, monkey see monkey do.

If you are really looking for a purpose for a dog outside of something cute that follows me around - I would say they give you one free pass when it comes to an animal attack. They take the bullet (which they actually do in our society right now) and you get to live. Maybe give you the chance to use medical supplies on them to save them if that feels heartless, but considering how many babies are left to die, I would get a heck of a chuckle if that was needed to be added.

P.S - If diseases are added it should start with Sheep Dung and then maybe move to overabundance of food/decayed food long before creating a new animal just for it. I have advocated that moving through sheep dung has a small chance of making you sick, which then can be spread to some one else that shares a tile with you.

*Eating old food (least favorite because of how time passes in game - annoying to code I bet, convoluted and not clear cut, also when does it happen. Food not decaying at all is in the same boat of food that doesn't rot for 50 years. If you make food go bad every 15 minutes say goodbye to 80% of new camps.)

*Not having a varied diet (also not preferred because of similar reasons as food decay - plus we have Yum bonus to push that, and I like the positive reinforcement because its not common.)

*Unsanitary conditions (un buried graves and sheep dung;piled up in the pen or just all over the camp because no pen; both say HIIIIIII) ~ My most favorite because everything is already in the game

*Edits for too many 'All your Base' moments because I was thinking faster than I was typing, just got done with work and it's late

As far as iron sinks go, I find it odd there are no iron tools only steel. Perhaps another tier of tools that are in between stone and steel in durability? Raise the amount of iron, add in iron tools and up resources for steel tool production could be another sink that could work.

I can see the issue with endless food production as it removes a lot of danger of dying. Combating this is delicate as if you nerf things too hard for the established villages, you make it that much harder to get at that point. I have thought as well as many about food spoilage, but that could just end up slowing down growth and do nothing to an active camp that is constantly making food. My favorite thought, which I started really investing into after seeing yellow fever, is a transferable epidemic. Large towns that don't create medicines run the risk of being wiped out no matter how much food they have sitting around. Tie it to food and animal husbandry and or maybe temperature. Having a "bad" diet of eating one thing your whole life, stepping on sheep poo all the time or being cold for long duration have a chance to make you ill, and that can be passed to others in proximity with a second but higher chance.

You leave a berry on a wild bush in case someone needs it to save their life. If you feel you need it, ask yourself, if I don't eat that berry am I 100% going to die? Also I commonly see new Eve's eating all the food close by, leaving nothing left in the radius kids can work in with their small hunger bars. This in my book is a no-no and is similar to cleaning a bush that does not need to be cleaned out at the moment. If possible fill up far from camp before coming back in, so you aren't eating all the food on your way in or when you get home.

The confusing thing is this logic is for Wild bushes and not domestic. Bush looks the same but how you manage them is completely different, which new players get confused on. The myth that wild berry bushes don't regrow if cleaned out, or regrow faster if not cleaned, was started on purpose because it was the only way to stop new players from effectively drowning each other by eating the last berries when it wasn't necessary for survival.

Can we expect most players a day after its been introduced to avoid it? No. Can we expect most players after a week or so especially after being told to do what Tarr is saying, just stand on something and wait for 25 seconds? Yes. People die to boars and snakes because you accidentally got hit and thats it, you are dead unless someone nearby has a bandage. If you accidently get hit by a mosquito you can easily wait it out safely without another players intervention.

I would like to see Fever danger go up and banana safety go down. I have never felt more at ease with survival since we started seeing these trees around. Not only is just straight living in the jungle easy, if you have a good spot similar to before, few ponds, some dirt, some warm AND some nearby banana trees you are WAY too set. My only gripe is that one jungle tile in a mix of another biome spawning a mosquito you aren't expecting to be there, but then again grassland snakes do add a certain, oh shit I do need to be paying attention at all times, which isn't always bad.

I mentioned the cart because its an extension of inventory but not viable until you find, albeit never practical. I am curious to what the game used to be, love the game as it is, and am even more curious and excited to what it could become.

you are correct about being in the middle of the desert for sure, but to skirt it and be at the most ideal state in the game feels off.... If I am head to toe covered in rabbit fur clothes in a green forest I would expect to be better off than naked on the edge of a desert.

Very understandable. I only know post nerf so I can't say too much on how this impacts the game. Neat things aren't always efficient, sometimes downright the absolute opposite.

Give us the ability the make the stones that are in the tutorial so we can attach messages such as, This way to iron vein. Don't catch the rabbit unless it has a baby with it and done deal. Want to balance it - put it somewhere in a tech tree that you need to be this advanced to make them. Heck even make it so by putting it down I give my life up to leave this message for ages and I would still do it. In the grand scheme of things my life isn't as valuable as the life of the civ anyways.

Meh that happens already with things like carts. It wouldn't be that the axe you made in your teens would rust when you were in your forties. It would be, "didn't grandpa make an axe somewhere... never mind I found it (looks at pile of rust) yeah should have expected that."

Burnout or frustration with new players though? This game is the perfect analogy of you can't always have your cake and eat it too.

We are not saying we want them to as viable as finding a place that has 5 ponds, close clay, group of cactus, some dirt nearby and a few berry bushes to start up off of, we want them to be somewhat viable and somewhat possible with a little more challenge. At the moment seeing good resources in certain biome isn't a "Hey maybe I should plop down here" its a "I wonder if there is somewhere close enough to here that I could live off of, and come back to this"

Already people have asked about giving Eve's a little bit of time before popping out babies, to give them time to scout out a base. Eve's are already respawning because they couldn't find three ponds near trees with some desert tile in there for warmth. Kill two birds with one stone. Give us more options for settlements and we won't desire more time to find that spot, we would leave less kids behind because we haven't found home yet.