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Psykout wrote:

Guppy wrote:

I dont think  that the limit for building should be resources.
It should be time. Stones, branches, clay, whatever you use for your house, arent hard to find  IRL.
But it takes alot of work refining those resources before you can build a house out of them.

Now, a craft timer was the first thing to come to mind, but that just sounds horrible for OHOL.

What about, instead, it takes more steps  to build walls. Like green beans.
You dont just harvest them and put them into a crock pot.
YOu wait for them to dry, harvest them, clean them, soak them, etc.
It makes the whole process slower, but not boring.
Making stew would be boring if you just yoink 3 things off a bush and throw them in together, Maybe we should take this concept and apply it to other things that are "too easy" atm, instead of adding more resources needed to do them

I think it would be even worse that as a productive player, that knows how to build, you will have even more trouble completing it. The good ones would just stop building all together because it takes way too much time to complete.

If things change with building, would you rather have to go look for more and rare resources or do this?

Only if buildings would be actually worth it ofc

RodneyC86 wrote:

Baker wrote:

I strongly agree. No peaceful alternatives, Being friendly bites you in the ass down the line instead of the other way round.  People build fenced towns, killing eves on sight whether they are aggressive or not.

I've seen co-existence but only in towns with no war swords. It can happen but a bloodbath is never far off.  I've had experiences being sworded at birth because my mother was an eve inside a town, dickheads yoohoo'ing at me as I bled out.

I've been offering a suggestion for shackles even as prisoners, it's better than being sworded immediately or shot on sight like some wild animal.

Nope, no one wants that. Everyone is too proud to wear shackles. Never realising the paranoia a village deals with to take your eve butt in

Stop going on every god damn thread talking about god damn shackles, are you really that narrow sighted to see that it will turn sour? Its not that we are too proud, we just know it won't end well. People already will walk up stab you because you weren't the one that fed them as a baby because you were one of the few people in town willing to work and happened to be female that life. I am sorry to get mean, but you are not exactly being pleasant about us disagreeing with shackles/handcuffs/prisoners.

I don't know why you would refer to mixing d&d into ohol if you're using a d6 system.

RodneyC86 wrote:

JonySky wrote:

It's not a problem for peaceful players ... it's a problem that there's a lack of balance and revision of all this (respawn de eves next to the cities)
it's not a problem with the swords either ... the eves that I found yesterday came and killed with anything (bow, knives ... etc ..)
all this has to be reviewed ...

I hope that the last change of Jason to solve the / die solve this problem

I certainly hope so. Just went through a life, Eve Tarrs keep spawning around our gated village. some gets shot, some pass in for whatever reason. But i think i saw at least 4 eves, and I dont even hang around the town square, working as a banana forager

totally true, the problem has not been solved, it remains exactly the same ...,
I just lived a short life in an early camp and we still had the visits of the murderous eves ...
I do not know if the new mechanics of / die is implemented or not ... I hope not yet because it is not working
If this continues, I do not see a future for OHOL

I would like to say i've seen too much hate in the game, i've been killed because i did a devious face as baby, wtf. People are so afraid about griefers that they are killing everyone, doing exactly what griefers want, eves are being killed like sheeps. We have two choices, TRY to live in multicultural society as we once had, accepting our different languages, trying to learn with each other... or make swords and kill ourselves. Usually people choose the easiest decision taken by fear, and the ones turning this game in a bloody pool are ourselves.

Here is what i suggest

I've seen people talking about making prisons and people being killed unjustly, what if we could use the nets to arrest people? Once you throw the net on someone he or she wouldn't move, wouldn't starve and wouldn't have children, that could stop griefers and wouldn't allow them to simply die and grief another town and could stop people from being killed unjustly, since you are traped you can be judged. So you might say "but griefers could use the nets too", yeah, but that wouldn't kill you and someone from the village could simply free you. Or you might say "well, another griefer could simply free the traped griefer", yes, thats right, but being a student of risk management i can say it is impossible to completely eliminate risks, but it's possible to soften them. I think it's a fair solution and easier than make prisons.

Within the last week I played in a fully fenced town with two gated entrances.  An Eve came to the north gate without a visible weapon.  Both I and a kid went about town raising the alarm.  Then some peace loving hippies went to the Eve and her now kid and let them in!  I challenged my family on the wisdom of such a decision, and their response was the equivalent to a "meh".

When your own family doesn't care about the survival of their own town to the next generation, something is fundamentally broken.  How am I to discern which family members can be entrusted with the existing fence gate?  Do I have to look for the most racist SOBs?  Or just those who strap on swords?  Furthermore, this town was stagnating resource wise, it was important for gatherers to go out and collect from beyond the fence, cowering behind it wasn't exactly an option.

I propose that a proper city gate be added.  One that has to be build between two pillars of stone.  Anyone of the family name can automatically enter and exit.  Anyone not of the family name, cannot. 

Maybe then actual trade might happen.  My family will force the serf eves to bring me iron and buckets of water and I'll provide them advanced goods from within my citadel town, or I'll smite them with the sword and wait for new Eves to come serve outside my gate.

The_Anabaptist

jasonrohrer wrote:

I don't think pine walls were ever used by anyone, ever, milkweed or not!

The thing is, I've made those pine panels in real life, and it's a ton of work.

There's an aspect of this game that is a "real maker aesthetic," and I've kept that going for most things.  Track kits are a recent exception, along with property fences.

Obviously, the real maker aesthetic is cool and unique (no other game has 25 steps to make a fire, and the same steps translate exactly to real-world fire-making).

But just as obviously, a realistic making aesthetic is long-term tedious when you want to get down to business and play the damn game.

So I'm torn on stuff like this.  Would be nice to make a stack of pine panels after making one, and set up structures throughout the village quickly.

Also, the "adobify" suggestion is a great one.

Maybe they could be very easy to move to make ad-hoc, temporary structures?

But in real life the material cost is in reality what dictates what is made and what is not. Pine walls are not obsolete becuase they are tedious or require a lot of time and work, they are obsolete because you need 5 ropes and 4 shafts to make ONE panel, wich is ludicrous compared to the stone alternative or even compared to no building at all.

I predict that even at (1 rope+ 1 shaft) per panel we would still see no Pine walls, because the smallest room at 3x3 inside would need  16!!! ropes or 8 lassos, 64 milkweed.... you get the idea. To make them viable we need to get to 4 panels/rope at least. Think that the same room outside is less than 1 iron and labor (half a shovel and a quarter of a chisel). At 1 rope/ panel you still need more than 1 full iron (hoe), alot of work to farm and collect shafts plus a whole lot of soil + water.

The only way I see Pine walls working and flourishing is under a heavy buff in the cost side, something like: 4 ropes and 4 shafts give you a very complicated to craft workstation that produces 1 panel/ 1shaft alone, or maybe with a high top limit (with a chance of use like steel tools).

RodneyC86 wrote:

Dodge wrote:

Yes my sword just said the n-word when i stabbed someone, they definitly are

What are you talking about?

The swords kill by name not race

https://edge.onetech.info/3047-War-Swor … FamilyOnly

"War Sword
otherFamilyOnly
"

You kill other families not other races, you can kill same races, different races

How is that racist?

Also im pretty sure if you adopt someone from another race/family and they get your lastname then they are part of the family and cant get killed, but not sure since i havent tested this.

As pro gun people would say, blame the person not the sword.

That gets a little hard though, when you introduce a new feature it will always be used more often at first. I made the joke that if cyanide was added people would kill themselves left and right just to use the new thing in the game. The laughing stopped when I realized its true.

Yes, you can play in the same town if you just constantly walk out to rebirth people you want back into the town but it requires you to have people willing to go outside of the area for it.

So if your mom is out in the wilderness you can just /die to her and as long as she's outside of the town far enough you can be born to the same line that's within the town.

Yes my sword just said the n-word when i stabbed someone, they definitly are

What are you talking about?

The swords kill by name not race

https://edge.onetech.info/3047-War-Swor … FamilyOnly

"War Sword
otherFamilyOnly
"

You kill other families not other races, you can kill same races, different races

How is that racist?

Also im pretty sure if you adopt someone from another race/family and they get your lastname then they are part of the family and cant get killed, but not sure since i havent tested this.

futurebird wrote:

Lets see if the new changes to /die and Eve spawning help with that last graph. No more "choosing" to be Eve just to go kill people...

Has this change been implemented?   If so, I think something is wrong because there are a TON of murderous Eves running around.  I just had three lives in a row where our town was repeatedly attacked by killer Eves.    I couldn't even live long enough to fight back and my connection is too laggy to allow me to run away once I've been death-locked.   Really sucks.