One Hour One Life Forums

1. They know how to do either nothing or the bare minimum to keep themselves alive

2. They constantly waste food

3. They will kill players who kill greifers

4. They are more likely to grief

5. They need to be taught which takes time from the people that know how to do important things

6. They can doom your lineage if they are the only girl

7. They forget to feed their babies

10. They could be taken care of for 3 minutes as step on a rattle snake right after wasting the mothers time and food

In general new players are useless, and a strain on resources, not being mean those are just the facts, if you got any reasons as to keep a new player in your village other then greifer fodder im all ears.

• Sacrifices of babies

• Brother lovin'

You're making a lot of assumptions about how and why people are using this feature. Half of my babies force quit in my arms almost immediately after they are born. These babies could have easily used slash die and given me the option of having another baby right away, but they choose to use the easier force quit option that their mod offers them, wrecking the cooldowns of multiple mothers in multiple lineages in rapid succession just to get wherever they are trying to go. I don't mind if they're trying to come back as a girl, but they almost never do, because they just put their mom on cooldown.

On top of that, there are lots of people who have lots of different reasons to suicide. If I'm naked in the desert gathering cactus fruit because I want to increase my fertility, and a baby is born to me, they might think I'm a naked scavenger who has nothing going for her. If they'd take the time to let me carry them back home, which usually only takes a few seconds, they might see what the town has to offer and want to stay, because that might have been the kind of town they were looking for. I'm naked because it's hot in the desert. I don't have a backpack because I'm farming and gave it to someone who actually needs one for their job. But in that split second I look like a bad player and lose a baby and potential other babies because someone force quit on me while I was grabbing a snack. This quick die option allows babies to decide on a whim that this isn't the mother for them, without knowing much about her situation or skill level. And they do it rapidly to multiple mothers, which is a problem.

Babies will always have the option to kill themselves, and I have no problem with that. But they shouldn't ruin the playthroughs of other people in the process, which is what this mod feature is doing.

And yes, this is an issue with the mod, because the mod undid an actual update that removed this feature and implemented slash die for a very valid reason. There has been a noticeable difference in the number of surviving children (at least in my game) since this feature was added, so I'm pretty confident in pointing fingers at it. If you have a problem with a game feature, bring it to Jason and let him decide that it's something that fits his vision of the game.

I'm not saying the mod has to go. I'm saying that this particular feature needs some adjusting because right now it's being abused in a bad way.

Don't ask a modder to undo his updates.

I don't WANT players to be on a birth cooldown and I DO care about that, but on the other hand, I want to die without being in my moms arms and older than 0 too! And I'm one of the players using it THAT way. Screaming about us for using it is a way to say we are bad. But that the game lacks the function to die on this way, isn't our fault, is it? I mean, if we could die without much fuss, we wouldn't NEED this shortcut!

I’m not the fighter for this shortcut, but I am using it. For the reasons I told earlier, for the reasons I told here. And I really don’t like to be told that I’m not caring for people, I care, but I do care more about my time and how I want to play it. If /die worked how it should (Not specific, not being 0, not being in your moms arms AND not being an immediate a lineage ban) I would use that instead. But I can’t. So I use this shortcut. If people get a birth cooldown for that I'm very sorry, but if the /die was wider that wouldn't also be needed!

I get that you want to keep using the mod, and I have nothing against that, but keep in mind that this particular mod function is undoing a fix that was officially implemented in game to prevent the exact problem that we are having right now.

There is one hundred percent a change in how many babies are quitting on their mothers since this feature was added, because they are not lineage banning themselves and being born to the same mother multiple times, ruining her birth cooldown. In the past week I've noticed that an average of two of my children will make it to adulthood now, no matter what town I'm born into. And this is with me taking every advantage I can with the fertility mechanic. I'm birthing eight to twelve kids a life in reasonable towns with good food, moderate clothing, etc. and I get maybe three who choose to stay if I'm lucky, and I'm luckier still if they make it to adulthood. Imagine if I was a newer player and didn't know how to use yum properly. There's a good chance I'd end up with no living children, game after game. Is that the kind of experience you want people spawning into when they first get the game?

When players have the option to quite in a split second, they aren't taking the time that's actually needed to assess the situation they are born into, causing more deaths to good and bad mothers alike. And as long as the mod is undoing official game fixes that make the experience worse for unmodded players, it increases the likelyhood that some kind of crackdown on mods is going to have to take place, ruining the experience for people who are using the mods without taking advantage of that exploit.

Yes! 3 bites on a fish would be great. Or maybe two with different yum bonus potato style. All this effort would be worth it and would make fish excellent food for long trips when you have long yum already going. I vote "half cooked fish" as new food. if you depart on 10 yum bonus this would give around 60 pips and still keep the yum going.
BTW: is there a cool-down on ice hole after fishing Arctic Char? What are the odds on fishing? Cannot find anything on this. How many worms/hooks expected per fish?

Cecil wrote:

I have half a mind to murder any player who seems to be using the zoom out mod out of spite now.

That sounds very smart and reasonable...
Don't let the anger get to you.

For me the whole issue is moot anyways.
As some may have already said, you cannot force people to play when they don't want to.
But let's go even more broad so that people understand this side of the argument.
You cannot force people to run the game if they don't want to, period. That's why there's actually a quit button that does work while playing.
The only reason I would use the new awbz shortcut over that is because rather than just disconnecting, the current % bind completely exits the game.
A game should always have the option to quit (hell pretty much any process on a computer should) and this game has one.
It's just, not without quitting the game entirely hence why the shortcut was asked for.

The only issue I see here (which is very easily fixable) is that currently some people have the possibility to leave without clearing the baby cooldown for their mother.
I'm not sure what happens when you use the % bind, do you just disappear?
And does the % bind properly clear the baby cooldown? If not, it should, and if it does, the awbz shortcut should use the same method of signaling a disconnection.
It's as simple as that.

To be honest, I don't even understand why there is a baby cooldown in the first place.
Jasons says that he wants people to compete for babies. Doesn't the cooldown prevent a proper distribution?
To be more clear, shouldn't babies be distributed properly whether or not there is a cooldown?
If you're going to argue that it's to prevent a sudden influx of babies on a single mother, first off the baby distribution should prevent it from going overboard, second how is it different from getting triplets/quadruplets anyways.
On top of that if a mother gets more babies than she can handle (which likely only happened if she purposefully got a big yum bonus and some good temperature) then the extra babies would just die off anyways. Natural selection.
The best compromise I think would be to make the cooldown a very lax cap, like say, no more than 5 babies in under 5 minutes.
I think something like that might work really well.

I have half a mind to murder any player who seems to be using the zoom out mod out of spite now. If only it wasn't so counter-productive, I'd be all for it. It seems to be the only way to get it through the thick skulls of certain people. It's one thing when they cheat and it only affects them, but this is affecting everyone.

The more I think about it right now, the more I find myself wanting to take a zero tolerance on anyone I find with the mod. Sure, it'd ruin civs to kill the exploiters off, but it's a meta-game circle where their style messes with everyone else anyway, so one might as well return the favour to them and make the mod undesirable.

As for a song im not sure the parrot is really a singing bird

it'd have birds move in like cardinals do with pines, and we'd get nice birdsongs in the surrounding area as long as the seed bowl is replaced in xx amount of time.

I for one agree this trend is game breakingly awful. It means fewer towns survive, its way less fun to be female, fewer people want to play Eve because kids all bail etc.

And I know I’m in the minority here but I think playing the spawn you’re given is in the spirit of the game. I would be in favor of /die being a little more forgiving (maybe do it whenever you want and get your lineage ban) but limited to 2-3 times per day.

snap a snowball in their face and feed them

and i dont get all this hate for the creepy dude with the long beard and spiky hair ..?? hes a cute kid even if hes got an eerie expression. his beard gives me grunge vibes i love him

i fucking hate the ginger man. i played as him n nobody trusted me even tho i was doing so much for sheep n baking my whole life bc i just looked shady. i was tryna clothe some kids n the lady watching em thought i was gonna run n murder em n it made me sad. also when he reaches elder status he looks like a hairy walnut or a tumor... or a tumor on a hairy walnut