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There is annoying bug with buckets.  If you take a bucket of water, then take one bowl out of it to water a row, it becomes completely useless with deep wells, cisterns etc., until you empty it completely. There are large chunks of water and there are small chunks of water and you cannot interchange them. Also you cannot take water from cistern with pouch or bowl anymore. Cistern works only with buckets. So if you have full deep wells and full cisterns and somebody took a bucket for bulding another deep well, you're screwed. You need to plant and water milkweed for rope to make another bucket, but you cannot water it, because you don't have bucket.  You basically drowning in water, yet you die from thirst.

New griefing option: use all buckets to make deep wells. If you build enough, village will starve unable to water crops. I stumbled at this accientally.  Shallow well dried out, so I tought I'll be helpful by building deep well out of it.  Then spent the rest of my life planting milkweed and long distance watering it.

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Ditto. Best way to get information what REALLY changed.

That's actually perfect situation for me. It can hardly get better than that.  What I do if I see famine imminent?  Grab a basket and run off 2-3 biomes away to forage.  Chill out on some warm spot for 2-3 minutes chewing berries, and then go back.  Natural selection did what it does best.  All dumb kids died away.  And whoever is alive at this point is experienced player that went foraging too.  You have perfect team from now on.  Sometimes when I see famine imminent, I also ask one most usefull, hard working kid to grab a basket and follow me - I usually know better where to go.

I do it sometimes but it's kind of full time job.  Tell all women that I'm running nursery.  Grab each kid and run around with him to show what's where.  Figure out what is the most difficult task they can do and assign them there.  Or as apprentice to someone else.  It's kind of hard though, when kid can say only a letter or two, but doable.  Do you know how to compost? N. Do you know how to smith? N  K, stay here untill you grow up a little and and then grab a basket and bring 20 stones. We need them for wells. That works most of the time. With small problems of course. First stones he brings are all from kitchen causing ppl making pies to get mad

Great post Morti!

Few more things to consider:
- Build first farm on border of desert, so I can help there without getting hungry every 5 seconds.
- Do a quick run around village with me when I'm born, so I can SEE where food is, where water is, where soil is, where rabbits are, where carrot seeds are, where reed/clay is. Later, when something crucial is need, I can B-line there safely, even while I'm still very young.
- Basket+carrot.
- Bring milkweed/threads/ropes home.  I probably can start getting rabbits, if they are close, but I can't get enough milkweed for snares on my own yet.
- DON'T ask/expect me to water carrots if ponds are 2-3 screens away and I'm just turned 5. Can't carry food while holding bowl, there is nothing to forage and it's cold there. So it's like a death sentence. From what I've seen, asking/expecting it is almost failproof way to end up with a dead kid.  Maybe you even have to actively discourage kid from watering if ponds are not super close.

True. But only if you don't plan to have kids.

I get lost all the time.  Especially if me or the other person is in a rush (e.g. close to starving).  You simply have no choice how far you need to wander off.  And backpack full of pies is not standard spawned Eve's equipment.

Maybe they're not up to date.  There where no real downsides to that strategy - as a girl you could always shun the kids when they where inconvienient.  As a boy you had no option to have kids when things got rough.  Nowadays, with lineage ban, this strategy is killing the town.  But in does it in completely opaque way.  Having kids is just random event.  And not having them in town looks like you're just not "getting lucky".  There is no indication, that you did anything wrong in the past, that is causing it.

If we're are talking about well run town, that's no brainer - you can and should keep every single child.  OTOH if we talk about early settlement, things are different.  You need to have like 3 fertile women all the time, no matter what.  And it looks like daughters die like a flies, even right next to food, with job descripition like "stay close to farm, eat carrots, plz don't go anywhere until you have 2-3 girls". So that unsually means keeping every single one.  Even carrots sponges.  And boys?  You can afford only keeping smart ones, that can go outside and forage for themselves.  Carrot sponge boy + village = nothing. So if boy does anything stupid, like jumping out of my arms while I feed him, not staying in the warm spot, etc., I immediately shun him. He'll most likely will be only a drain.  If things get really rough, I shun every single boy.  Unless he's persistent.  Following me after "SRY", staying warm, "P" does indeed wonders.

We need to look also at what happens when you fuck up something slightly.  And as I see it, if your composting is not in tip top shape even for one generation, it's game over for a town.  Soil is used first for carrots to avoid instant famine.  Your water carrying capacity drops to long distance 1.  You have only deep wells close and you cannot use them.  Your carts decay and you cannot remake them - no spare soil, so no milkweed.  Your buckets decay (or soon will) and you cannot remake them.  Your baskets decay and trying to remake them obliterates your chances to restart composting. Anyway your water pouches decayed and you don't have milkweed to remake them either.

Actually I think that net effect would be that chances are lower with twins. They may communicate better. But that would not compensate for the fact, that one of them accidentally starving or stepping on a snake = other one insta-quitting. You effectively just putting all your eggs into one basket.

Could you elaborate on that? What "third step" you are talking about?  I honestly don't get it.  All water sources refil at the same rate, but they need way more advanced tools to use.  As I see it, the state is very very fragile. You fuck up your composting a bit, run out of milkweed, cannot replace decaying buckets/carts and then you cannot use any nearby water sources at all (all converted to deep wells). No way to recover.

Keep names, but show only adjusted values - original data its completely useless for players (it's just implementation detail completely irrelevant for gameplay).