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I haven't heard about the cisterns. Having them hold more doesn't change anything though. Communication is difficult in this game. Teaching is one thing but coordinating people to stick to jobs after sound impossible. And that's assuming everyone is willing, able, and knows how to cooperate - in a place where people actually have carts and baskets around because they all didn't rot during the previous generation. Your simple solution sounds like a utopia.

All cities rely on the environment purely. Via reeds, and wood among other things. Water is going too far. No one is going to have a marker road to wells and ponds because those ponds will be the center of every camp. And nothing will get bigger then a camp, because people dont want to waste time running water for their whole life. We are not going to see the cities we used to see in this game for a long time, if ever again.

I disagree, seeing a city that actually had a building for a bakery, with walls and floors and chests, and wells with cisterns near for backup was amazing. You're nuts if you think that gigantic naked carrot farm abomination in the swamp is a "city."

This feels so right.

With the changes to wells I've been very picky about settlements. I've also been pretty damn unlucky with land generation. Overlapping with a snow biome? No. Only a few ponds? No. Not much reed? No. So massive and so barren or completely tree covered? Moving along. I hate this well change as societies are tied even more tightly to swamps. Before outward expansion was possible once shovels and digging wells became possible. Now camps will be all the more huddled and condensed around whatever few lucky ponds your eve happened to find. As if clutter wasn't getting bad enough with the past few updates.

All morning my eve lives have been making firetools, and explaining how to kids, plus other recipes and mechanics, and then dying and starting over - I've had some nice children to teach in some very fertile greenlands, tons of berries/burdocks, and was able to explain a lot to a receptive few but, most of these teaching sessions end with "and I wish I could've showed you instead of told you". Because too often I've made tools, maybe even a basket for a child, but the only swamp around for miles only has a few reeds and no pond or something. Perhaps no clay. So we eat berries and die.

If you were one of the children I taught about this mechanic then shame on you.

Quoted for emphasis. One thing I often tell a screen full of people in developing camps is, "We need (insert every profession) except carrot farmers". Don't forget to mention milkweed farmers, because now that's a regular thing at every stage of society that even some old players didn't get the memo on. Don't overestimate how many people know how to bake and smith either. I've owned the game since March and have played productively, but only recently learned to smith because of wanting to learn it organically in game through a student experience.

-Without milkweed farmers we can't make basic tools or advanced structures like boxes, buckets (for deep wells and iron mines), herding animals becomes difficult without rope.

-Without wheat farmers pie production ceases and we don't have straw needed for compost

-Without berry farmers (AND WITH PEOPLE EATING FROM FULL DOMESTIC BERRY BUSHES, STOP IT DON'T DO THAT. EAT FROM PARTIAL ONES AND REWATER THEM AFTER!) another ingredient for composting is lost, and domesticated animals can't be fed, to reproduce and poop.

-Without herded tended animals we can't make compost with sheep poop and lose a valuable meat source as well as a good source of clothing.

-Without compost we lose the ability to milkweed farm, berry farm, wheat farm, tend animals, and from that, the ability to make any more advanced tools or structures of society that need to be replenished. Then all the ingredients to civilization begin to crumble while people huddle around the carrot farm - filling the entire screen with single carrot tiles,  letting crops go to seed because there's nowhere to put the carrots, causing precious needed soil to be lost.

These can be the most frustrating towns to play in and try to organize. I try to avoid because all of this is way to much to explain to multiple people who just started playing, even if they're all willing and able to listen by some miraculous stretch. Believe me, I want to, and try. New players, please expose yourself to new things as much as possible and get out of the carrot farm ASAP - but don't let all the crops go to seed. Harvest it and get other people to help. Don't be afraid to leave crops dry if there's too damn many. Time is a resource and when new players nonstop water and harvest crops till entire screens are full, and then water more crops it becomes a waste of everyone's time to make sure the carrots get picked and soil isn't wasted by them turning to seeds through neglect. Especially in societies that have pies and clothing, and are far beyond the barbarism that is eating carrots and foraged goods. You must evolve.

Got a link to the family tree? Someone should dig up the "missed connections" thread for more of these bittersweet stories.

Some of the replies in this thread are quite disheartening. Play in a solo server if you want to learn pressure free. Get mods if the base game isn't enough. (Larger screen, WASD). Use online resources to look up recipes you're unsure of before opening the game. Keep it open while playing for reference. It's easy.

I just came to vent. I'm pretty good at avoiding murder. Running and foraging, waiting out the troubles, I've even stopped a couple myself when the resources were readily available. But in our large encampment, a gal just killed seven of us (with a knife, even more of her children through starvation). There was a bow and a few arrows but someone conveniently hid them from the camp before hand.

http://lineage.onehouronelife.com/serve … _id=118435

And sure we all cried out her name and appearance and had her all ID'd, but there was jack squat we could do about it with her running around near any hidden tools of self defense, or tools capable of making something for self defense. Jason, lack of suitable offspring to continue the family sucks. Random murder and other forms of griefing suck. Rates of deterioration exceeding rates of growth due to bad land generation sucks. When your only suitable offspring decides to be a serial murdering griefer on the mediocre land your ancestors have settled, the game can be pretty damn frustrating sometimes. More weapons of self defense would not help though. People would kill (or restrain, w/e) for clothes, food, use or misuse of resources, or just because. And I'm sure babysitting this issue detracts big from actual content development. It's a rock and a hard place to have to strike game balance between, so why bother? The issue can only escalate as those technologies advance. Survival for the legacy can already be hard enough through poor RNG and environmental circumstance.

Rant over now. *Clicks to respawn*

I get the feeling Wanda might have been breeze.

Living in desert - bad. Living on the edge of a desert where you can settle on a tile between the desert biome and another one to maintain perfect temperature at home? Very very good. If it's bordering a water filled swamp with some lush greenlands and rabbit fields nearby that you have farms set up on so even the naked worker people are warm but not hot? Dream settlement. I do love walking through a fruit filled desert from time to time though, but the desert to clothed people is like the arctic for naked people. It's not great for naked folks either, but neither is being naked.

Lame. "Haha, I killed myself idiot. Whose stupid now?" /s

Aww that's beautiful! I'm jealous you got to share such a wonderful moment, the fruits of it were well worth. The aspect of actually having a father in the family goes a long way. Sense of community goes way up. You did an amazing job. I had been born there a few times over several generations, originally when it was a larger camp, and then seeing wells, cisterns, walls, that all start popping up in smart locations over time was awesome to witness. I hope to cross paths with you again <3 and of course our wonderful queen and my mother, Duchess <33 My only question for Rarity, is what was your family? I couldn't find you in the tree at all. Was this actually two different families getting "married?" If so, that's even cooler. Thank you.

Edit: turns out I was also Rosie in generations 6, I was my own Great(x6) Grandmother. Didn't realize one of my lives in that town previously was with the same family! <3

Oh boy, its late. Like 6 A.M. late. I did a quick proofread on that but it came way way longer then intended. I'm sure typo fixes and revisions are abound. After sleep.

EDIT: Duchess, I only just noticed your final words. I am so sorry I didn't see you off from this world. For context, my first words were "i"l"y". I love you. She replied "Aww, love you more!". I would've like to say "Love you most" but being a baby all I could say was "no" "u". And a few times throughout life we repeated this to eachother. Seeing those as your final words got me feeling some kind of sad.