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I was one of felicity's sons. I didn't see any of this drama unfold. I didn't even see people talking to each other. How strange.
Both of you are in the wrong and both of you look like tools. One should never be cursed for abandoning a baby, this game isn't about saving all your kids, in fact it's about being constantly stressed to the point of pulling your hair out. I guess you both nailed it. The only reason I can fathom why people play this game is because they LIKE being stressed out assholes. Legs you cursed for a moronic reason and you want to complain of people abusing curses!? How absurd!
If you are last person in the race and you are male, you have nothing to offer. Why wouldn't someone take the useful stuff to help their families, when your family is dead? Yes there are more polite and socially acceptable ways to go about things, I can agree. But since it appeared you were AFK doing nothing, why ask, when you can just take the useful stuff and go on your merry way.
Senseofbite wrote:Actually I've see you around playing and I'm on the discord chat server you actually are one of the worse I'm glad you got ban and I'm not surprised that you are autistic you act like a total retard I'm glad that i don't see you in the game anymore and now the discord chat I've heard alot of people dislike you and i get why now.. you deserve to die from corona honestly
Geez, you make a brand new account on the forums and your first post is this? Give the guy some slack, insulting him and hoping he dies doesnt exactly put you in any better light then what hes in. Also this forum post died like half a week ago why bring it back up?
First of all I'm a female. Second of all this is just POST, AGAIN, stalking me. So yeah, hope you like your ban POST.
So, what did you do on server 12 ?
If you were one of the ones on server 12 you'd know. I mean, what do you think I'd apologize for?
What is the actual problem here?
Overwhelmed mothers? That can be adjusted.
Also, is there a problem (still) with Eves getting swamped with babies? This may be a bug in the code.
I just lived a life where neither my mother nor I were overwhelmed with babies.
Spoon just offered 4 examples ez pz. 'it didn't happen to me so it must not be so la la la' Surely you can't be serious.
Your game has turned into an anxiety mess of rush rush rush rush, where's the fun?
Spoon's latest forum post got me thinking about things a little bit. Made me think about the things I've done to grief specific people to ruin their game. Very childish, and an emotional reaction to feeling disrespected.
I'm not doing this because I expect forgiveness, or want to be liked, as you anyone who knows me, I don't care about that stuff. I can be an asshole in real life and so it naturally would bleed into the games I play (not only OHOL but others as well).
I'm not going to excuse the things I've done. I have had time to have some personal reflection. I'm a nurse, once upon a time I was a traveling nurse, would help out nursing homes and hospitals alike. Sometimes I would be in peds/NICU, sometimes I'd be in geriatrics, other times ICU. I recently changed my studies to focus on nephrology. The epidemic that grips our planet right now has really got me thinking...hence the time to reflect. I'm not perfect. I'm easily triggered. I'm also Autistic (again not looking to excuse behavior) so I have a tendency to 'obsess' or 'fixate' on something. I don't want to possibly contract this virus and possibly die and not have the chance to say I'm sorry to the people I have hurt, the ones to whom I've ruined their game. It was totally selfish and I was looking at it as ME being the one disrespected and how to solve that unpleasant feeling by hurting others. I don't know everyone's name that was involved on server 12, so unfortunately it kind of is a mass apology.
To server 12, I'm sorry.
Also I play on 2hol, my seed is fishy, if you want revenge (I do deserve it), that's my camp. I won't hold it against you.
I don't agree it was as quite as wholesome as Fish seems to imply (though perhaps I've misunderstood the implied degree of wholesomeness).
However, with multiple forms of restrictions, limitations on iron being connected to the water supply, lack of tech advancement, massive amounts of hunger, and baby abandonment becoming even more recommendable than before Fish is easily more right than wrong.
I played a run of 2HOL last night using the seed spawn system to spawn as an Eve out in the wild, and kept all of my children. They eventually made a not so well organized berry field, and an oven in a bad spot near crops. But still, having only 4 or so children it was easily better than dozens of children who couldn't survive. And I think some of them understood things a little better afterwards, at least, I think my first daughter did.
Anyways, congrats on your first engine Fish. You get a kerosene tank also?
You're right it wasn't totally wholesome, like I got kidnapped and killed as a bebe a few times. Also thanks, I made an oil rig (holy steel pipes batman) and a fractional distiller. just in time too, my newcommen died after one use at the well. I couldn't have done it without your help, thanks!
Explain to me please, Jason. What is my motivation to play OHOL. March of 2018, I knew what my motivation was. To be born, raised by the village, contribute to the village, gather resources, have your own kids and advance in tech.
I find there is zero motivation to be born to an already overwhelmed mom. Die in 1 minute, repeat. Or be eve, have an overwhelming amount of kids to the point it doesn't feel special in the slightest. To get iron and advance tech just to have your lineage die in 24 hours.
Where is the fun, where is the wholesomeness this game once had. What on earth, is my motivation. Please, if you have an answer, let me know.
'dooming the server' Jason is doing that all on his own with his self righteousness.
the best approach is to visualize the town, who is being OCD, who is moving really fast while working, who is RP, etc. those people you want to avoid. They will curse you for any accidental click or not joining their stupid cult.
Also, if you find yourself in an argument with someone and you're obviously losing...no matter if you are right or not, just leave. if you stay that person will curse you and others will as well.
And if someone steals from your town, don't follow them, once you get to their town they will curse you.
Curses have a 200 tile radius. you are good to go once you are out of range. I mean you could leave, change your hat and outfit, most likely they won't recognize you.
That's how I have been dealing with people willing to curse for minor infractions.
And yeah, the point of a curse is to not have that person spawn near you, but a lot of people have nefarious reasons and actively seek to put just random people in DT.
curse miskas
I've been playing 2hol as well, and I still forget that I can catch rabbits without baiting them, that I can make rubber and get sulfur even as a ginger. I also like having my own spawn point so I don't have to worry about losing it if I die. More content I'm excited about, and plenty of food to support kids if I choose to keep them. Love it!
FishRfriendsnotfood wrote:is it possible to have everyone so cursed laden that everyone ends up in DT, or only one person is Eve and she has no babies because everyone else is in DT? I'm curious.
was only in there for two lives, short lives, dont worry, btw that's interesting
I'm not worried. It was more like wordfully thinking.
is it possible to have everyone so cursed laden that everyone ends up in DT, or only one person is Eve and she has no babies because everyone else is in DT? I'm curious.
it's just spoon being arbitrary. Until the next post about somebody using a word he doesn't feel is appropriate.
I personally hate it with a vengeance when someone feeds me. I already have my next yum food in mind dang it, let's not feed people unless they are helpless babies. I do appreciate AFK is practically none existent.
Then logic would point to posting to that person? Also why does it matter if they do want to believe that lineages last forever. It isn't affecting your life, at all.
what is the point of this post?
I do agree with you, and spoon for that matter. Forcing players to be constantly stressed with onslaught of babies isn't fun nor is it fun for the players constantly getting abandoned. There needs to exist more eves to prevent bottlenecks. Then the weakest eve line gradually loses fertility so then the 4 main families will be the strongest.
Yes, the ovulation stops due to breastfeeding. Exclusive breastfeeding is in fact a better contraception than male condom.
6 days of fertile window is max 5 days of sperm and 24 hours between ovulation and egg's death.
Note I used the word "hint" for Bible source. Still, it is very intriguing they wanted to start having sex on exactly 11th day of cycle, right in the fertile window.
LAM is effective 95 to 98% so you cannot say that breastfeeding stops 100% of ovulation. Also thats only for the first 6 months tops. I appreciate what you are saying but dealing with fertility there is no absolutes. Unless azoospermia even then there are extraction techniques, or complete hysterectomy including ovaries.
Each cycle there is only a 20% of getting pregnant even in the most optimum condition.
What this game does not claim is that it's a game about trying to conceive. It just claims it's a parenting game.
Karrots wrote:Spoon, you do realize before modern technology irl, you couldn't really.. choose to become pregnant? You could choose to have sex with the intention of pregnancy, but whether you get pregnant or not wasn't up to you.
It is not true.
1. People were often not having sex at all to prevent pregnancy.
2. Many sexual activities do not involve penetration. Such steps are common to young people before they decide to fulll intercourse.
3. Women are fertile only for 6 days per cycle. People were using it for their advantage. The oldest record is from year 388 with St. Augustine condemning Manichaeans for periodic abstinence to avoid pregnancy. But there is also a hint in Bible from IX-V century BC, that ancient Jews could understand fertile window. They were prohibiting sex during period and for following 7 days.Leviticus 15, 28
When a woman is cleansed of her discharge, she must count off seven days, and after that she will be clean4. Breastfeeding stops ovulation and people knew it. That should be implemented in game.
5. The knowledge about herbs preventing pregnancy was common. You can read in "Eve's Herbs" written by John M. Riddle. Funny is, eating wild carrot seeds prevents pregnancy. Maybe also include it in game?
6. Some says condoms were used in prehistoric times as far as 11 000 years BC, but for sure in ancient Egypt 1350 BC
7. People were pulling-out. It is funny, because it is better than fertility awareness and almost as good (chance of pregnancy in first year: perfect use: 4%, typical: 22%) as male condoms (2%, 18%)!All of those were not 100% efficient. Even abstinency is believed to fail at least once
. But hey, modern methods are neither. They're just better.
Even just an option for lowering the chance for child spam would be welcomed by many players.
Ovulation does not stop just because you are breast feeding. Plenty of women have gotten pregnant whilst exclusively breast feeding.
the 6 day fertility window refers to the MAX amount of time a sperm can live in the most optimum cervical fluid. 5 days is rare but not unheard of since female sperm lives longer than male sperm.
The Bible is not an accurate reference and should not be used in fact based arguments.
parents can be same sex. to have a child in real life sur eyou must need sperm and egg. but to parent a child, a father is unnecessary. single mothers exist. gay couples exist. a mother isn't necessary either.
people should abandon all babies.