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#76 Re: Main Forum » Police investigation 666 » 2018-04-26 18:28:36

@Roolstar you are awsome thanks

FeignedSanity wrote:

It looked to me like he showed quite a bit, I must be missing something.

Ty smile what you missed is this:

kubassa wrote:

Do you know it is a bot as FACT, or are you just assuming? Either way you have no idea who the person is or what he is doing. Move on and stop trying to be a 'game police' and play the game. Move out of FOV and you can't see what he is typing. No bother to anyone.

big_smile
i guess kubassa just wants to see the world burn, thats fine for me, but i am still curious about how it will burn

#77 Re: Main Forum » Police investigation 666 » 2018-04-26 17:12:54

kubassa please, i poured my life into this thread, just for you
dont be so mean to me

#78 Main Forum » Police investigation 666 » 2018-04-26 16:53:39

Drakulon
Replies: 23

kubassa requested that i will be the police in this case and i gladly accept this challenge.

So as many of you might have noticed, there are bots writing 666 in game.
This thread is to collect as much information as possible about the bots and their creator.
If you have any new information or ideas please tell everyone here. (even the smallest info might be useful)

Six hours ago someone called "Santan", made a review http://onehouronelife.com/reviewServer/ … ew&id=3160

Santan wrote:

666

Embrace my kids or get punished.
autoSprintf("User away from keyboard. Machines took over.");
myExistance = false;

apocalypseCounterBroken = true;
generationCounterBroken = true;
onlinetimeCounterBroken = true;
--TODO: failcraftsCounterBroken = true

Looking for new targets. Please provide.

D
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W
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P.S.
Game sold as finished product with weekly content DLCs.
Reality: game breaking updates at least once a week (sometimes even crashing servers) followed by few days of hotfixes.

If you click the link, you can see that this person has more than 368 hours of gameplay. (i will assume that he is an he from now on)
Under the hours of gameplay you can see when he was last online. I am watching this since a few hours and it always says that he was online less than 1 min ago.
So this means it is very likely that he is indeed the creator of the 666 bots.

A very important question is, how many bots does he control?
He has atleast 1 bot for every server, we know now that that is easily possible, thanks to powa:

powa wrote:

You can logon to multiple servers with one key.  I just tested it by copying my game folder and running two instances.  On Linux, you don't even have to have multiple game copies to do it.

But if it turns out that he controls more than 1 bot per server, that might suggest that there is a serious flaw with the game/website that needs to be fixed asap.
So if you see two or more bots at the same time please write about it here.

The motivation of Santan is clear. He is disappointed in the game and he wants to let everyone know.
But what exactly is his plan?

As far as i know, the bots write 666 and run around randomly, without being either productive or actively destructive.
But i heard rumors that the bots learn and get better over time. Is this true? Does anyone know more about this?

Santan is nice enough to give us some hints:

Santan wrote:

apocalypseCounterBroken = true;
generationCounterBroken = true;
onlinetimeCounterBroken = true;
--TODO: failcraftsCounterBroken = true

But what do they mean? At the first look i would say that he accomplished 3 goals, and that he has atleast 1 more that he wants to do.
But I dont understand the goals, apocalypse counter broken ? generation counter broken? Is he breaking counters? What?
Who can understand this riddle? How does it relate to the game?
And there is also this line:

Santan wrote:

Looking for new targets. Please provide.

Is he asking the community for suggestions for his next goals? Where does he want that we post these suggestions? This thread maybe?

Any help is appreciated, thanks

- your trust worthy police officer

#79 Re: Main Forum » On a related note to people typing "666" » 2018-04-26 12:09:44

Uhhhhh, I just found an interesting review: http://onehouronelife.com/reviewServer/ … ew&id=3160

Santan wrote:

666

Embrace my kids or get punished.
autoSprintf("User away from keyboard. Machines took over.");
myExistance = false;

apocalypseCounterBroken = true;
generationCounterBroken = true;
onlinetimeCounterBroken = true;
--TODO: failcraftsCounterBroken = true

Looking for new targets. Please provide.

D
E
A
L

W
I
T
H

I
T

P.S.
Game sold as finished product with weekly content DLCs.
Reality: game breaking updates at least once a week (sometimes even crashing servers) followed by few days of hotfixes.

Might be fake, but i think we found the real guy smile

#80 Re: Main Forum » Game is dying » 2018-04-26 12:05:17

palisade thanks for posting this images, i also want to see the game succeed, i spent 20$ for this.

Jason is saying he poured his life into this game the last week and how much he is doing for us.
But he is not working on charity organization and this game is not free to play.
I am sure he gained ALOT of money by doing this game.
The people who spent this money were expecting something from it.
If this game would be free to play he would receive much less hate.
Its very difficult for me to feel sorry for his rich ass smile

#81 Re: Main Forum » On a related note to people typing "666" » 2018-04-26 11:32:22

Tronilla wrote:
Drakulon wrote:
Tronilla wrote:

i think its a learning program to see if he can make npc that can play the game so we have wars vs bots it will be fun if we can make weapons and armor like in the old days like vikings. greek or rom

This is very positive thinking, i like it, but....
Why does he not test that on a private server? why do the bots say 666?
Why did he not tell anyone about this?
Also, its alot of work to make a bot like that and i dont think he has that much time right now.

i don't think he use a private server for testing he need to have the bot working beside us to learn to do stuff and ea time it get smarter. he dont have to put work in to a learning bot it will learn it self. But it have to do it by try and error the bot need to try it million of time to get to where it can farm

i think it say 666 to let us know its a bot nothing more and it can be a hint to apocalypse

most game dev don't show what there are doing in the background that is why he is not telling

Haha, that would be awsome, machine learning is great smile
The bots could evolve and evolve until they are better than the best human players.
Than you can let the bots do all the annoying tasks and you just focus on whatever you want.
But maybe at some point the bots will realize that some humans grief / play bad and they will start killing them.
They might evolve their own special code word (maybe 666?) and if you dont say it as soon as you are born they kill you big_smile

#82 Re: Main Forum » Game is dying » 2018-04-26 11:20:25

There is always hope.
I think the main problem is that Jason thinks that if player cant deal with the situation they are not good enough,
instead of questioning what he is doing.

A good example, from this thread https://onehouronelife.com/forums/viewtopic.php?id=1310:

jasonrohrer wrote:

Eve is supposed to be uncommon, but on the other hand, I have not control over how common it is.

He made this command in a thread where he explains how the new spawning algorithm changes how likely it is for an eve to spawn next to another village
or how likely it is for an eve to spawn in an area where most resources are already depleted, which obviously influences how many eves spawn.

But ofcourse noone likes to be wrong, i am sure all this hate he is recieving now is difficult for him and he might again think its the players fault.
Please watch this jason: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VEDEQDk2rB8
Normally i would not recommend people to watch pewdiepie but it fits so well here.

#83 Re: Main Forum » On a related note to people typing "666" » 2018-04-26 10:39:00

Tronilla wrote:

i think its a learning program to see if he can make npc that can play the game so we have wars vs bots it will be fun if we can make weapons and armor like in the old days like vikings. greek or rom

This is very positive thinking, i like it, but....
Why does he not test that on a private server? why do the bots say 666?
Why did he not tell anyone about this?
Also, its alot of work to make a bot like that and i dont think he has that much time right now.

#84 Re: Main Forum » On a related note to people typing "666" » 2018-04-26 10:28:15

stickyflypaper wrote:

Maybe Jason is designing some bots to replace all the players he keeps losing.

Its a funny idea, but why would he make the bots say 666?
Maybe its a genius plan to troll the most people possible. He is afraid of making more updates that would annoy people,
thats why he is changing tactics and now makes silly bots that say 666 to let it look like an outside person did it.

TrustyWay wrote:

We learn on discord that they start moving, maybe they are learning, maybe they are trying to kill everyone.

Interesting to watch, i think i need to make a discord account smile

#85 Re: Main Forum » On a related note to people typing "666" » 2018-04-26 09:52:43

Smackum1 wrote:

I can see how this "bot" could be some sort of proclaimer of end times unfearing of death brought up by Jason himself. But my personal opinion is that it is an outside individual manipulating some aspect of the game that could very well be a serious problem.

I also think that it is an outside individual and i think its very likely that this person reads the forum, and this thread. big_smile
I wonder is jason aware of this bot? what is his opinion to this? Does he know whats causing the problem?
Does he want to talk about it, or does he prefer not to?
I am just curious, thats all.

#86 Re: Main Forum » On a related note to people typing "666" » 2018-04-26 08:39:47

kubassa wrote:
Drakulon wrote:

If this is a bot, jason can just look up who is typing "666" constantly and then just ban that account, right?
I dont understand why you would write a bot that is so obvious.


Why?

Hes not doing anything wrong. Oh you don't like it. Better ban him. SMH.

No you misunderstood me, i never said that i dont like it.
But I dont know any game that would allow botting? Does OHOL allow botting?

#87 Re: Main Forum » On a related note to people typing "666" » 2018-04-26 08:24:27

Smackum1 wrote:

He can also see who the 1 person is at any given time on each of the servers. The trouble with my understanding is the account keys. I believe if you try to run multiple clients with the same account key then it does not work. So, they either spoofed or skimmed or whatever the account keys. So, I am unsure if banning the account key would work.

Ok i see, if there is a person that is able to create account keys, than this is probably very bad for the game.
I wonder how this stuff works. How do people figure out how to create account keys?
If you gain access to the code that checks the account key, you can make a key generator.
But i am sure jason is aware of this and all the checks are server side, so people cant see the code / how the keys are generated.
If you have access to alot of keys, you might be able to figure out a pattern, but i think this very difficult and you need alot of keys for it in the first place.
Maybe that person brute forced the keys? Sending alot of random keys to the server until one gets accepted?
But also this sounds very unlikely since the private key is long and the chances of guessing a right one should be extremely small.

Edit: I realized when you login you need to put in your mail and your key, so we can assume that your key is connected with your mail.
When you create an account the server might just create a random key and map it to a mail.
If this is they case, i have no idea how anyone would be able to create more keys.

#88 Re: Main Forum » On a related note to people typing "666" » 2018-04-26 06:08:01

If this is a bot, jason can just look up who is typing "666" constantly and then just ban that account, right?
I dont understand why you would write a bot that is so obvious.

#89 Re: Main Forum » Why do I need to give out so much information to buy the game? » 2018-04-25 17:22:39

Turnipseed wrote:
Drakulon wrote:

Why not accept bitcoin/crpyto? You dont need to pay someone 8% and you dont need to ask for any personal information.
Also its super easy to make a wallet and just copy and paste the address.

Cashing it out is a bitch and a half and rapidly fluctuating prices can make it tough..
Value went from 8,860 to 8,800 in the last hour... bigger jumps arent unheard of.

I am not an expert on this, but I think you could write a bot that sells your crypto as soon as you get it.
All the major exchanges have apis so you can write bots for it, that automatically sells to fiat and transfers it to your bank account if you reach a certain level. (for example)
You would need to pay fees for the exchange, but i think they are much lower than 8%
But this would take away time from the development of the game so maybe its not a good idea

#90 Re: Main Forum » Why do I need to give out so much information to buy the game? » 2018-04-25 16:58:12

Why not accept bitcoin/crpyto? You dont need to pay someone 8% and you dont need to ask for any personal information.
Also its super easy to make a wallet and just copy and paste the address.

#91 Re: News » Update: From Riches to Rags » 2018-04-24 05:57:40

Jason do you play your own game? Do you like it?
I have the feeling you dont play your own game and you also dont want to play.
You are not working on making a game you would like to play,
but you are working on game to annoy everyone (your great vision).
If you do not play your own game and/or dont enjoy it, than there is no way this is getting better.

I read some parts of this: http://onehouronelife.com/newsPage.php?postID=63
This will never work. Most people will always try to play the game in best way possible.
They make mistakes, at first, but they learn and get better.
Things you described only work irl, not in games.
But its funny to see how you try to make it happen by making it impossible to sustain a village. (no endless oil / apocalypse)
The base idea of this game is flawed, this will result in a frustrating experience for everyone.
The flaw is that you expect people to fail and when they dont you make it harder and harder until its impossible. (witch it already is since the apocalypse update)

#92 Re: Main Forum » Update 79: From Rags to Riches » 2018-04-22 14:27:57

After you take all carrots from one tilled row it becomes unuseable and you have to use a new tool on it to restore the tilled row.
You make the new tool with straight branch + rope + sharp stone

#93 Re: Main Forum » What is your favorite thing about this game? » 2018-04-22 05:48:49

I liked to build ways between villages, i also liked to make compost and big berry farms (before worms)
I like if i can build something that is good for future generations.
I want to build things that stay forever.

#94 Re: Main Forum » How to fix the decay system » 2018-04-22 05:29:19

stickyflypaper wrote:
KucheKlizma wrote:

4) Combining two broken baskets should yield one basket. This would basically reduce decay by half, while also handling the garbage problem.

Yes. Also, it would be great (and make perfect sense) if broken baskets could be burned as kindling.

Nice idea i like it.
But i think decay should be slowed down in general by a lot.
Right now it takes 30 min for a basket to break? I would like it to take atleast 180 min (3 life times), in addition to the combining two broken baskets idea

#95 Re: Main Forum » Has the game become too dystopian? » 2018-04-21 15:24:34

arkajalka wrote:

What am i supposed to do in this game at this moment? Craft clothes and run 60mins in wild eating berries and what not, never setling anywhere? That seems to be only leggit way to survive whole life.

Dont worry, sooner or later jason will activate the apocalypse again and then its all about who destroys everything first smile

#96 Re: Main Forum » The Struggles of Organizing in an Era With No Writing » 2018-04-20 05:53:15

Imagine we could draw with sticks/skewers in dirt.
While you are holding a skewer, you can just click and drag with the mouse to create a line.
This way we could plan alot of things and could also write text on the ground.
But the dirt line should not stay forever, and diminish over time, faster when people walk over it.

#97 Re: Main Forum » Deciding who has a baby » 2018-04-19 11:32:39

One of the things that make this game so unique is that you get born as a child, from another player.
I don't know any game that has this mechanic.
Adding Adams and reproduction to the game would fit very well with this idea.

This would also allow genetics to be a part of the game.
(If you are white and have a kid with a black guy, the kid will be most likely brown, maybe white or black)

Stuff like this would create awesome stories big_smile

#98 Re: Main Forum » Deciding who has a baby » 2018-04-19 11:02:10

Lum wrote:

You'e giving solutions to how to deal with the baby. The problem Jason was highlighting is the implementation of what is, essentially, a rape mechanic. He doesn't want that, it's way too serious. As he said, it doesn't have to be as complicated as it is in real life.

How is rape worse than killing? Its not, there is no way it is. Killing is already in the game. You can kill kids, you can kill their parents, you can kill everyone.
If you rape someone the result is a new life. If you kill someone the result is the opposite.

Lum wrote:

You also can't just claim that you'll find a solution for rape and sexuality in this game when there aren't even any in the real world yet. That's just utopist.

This is not about finding the perfect solution, its more about having fun dealing with the problem.

#99 Re: Main Forum » How to Kill? » 2018-04-19 05:04:48

Right click the tile the person is standing on instead of the person.
You can kill people that are moving.

Take a look at this thread: https://onehouronelife.com/forums/viewtopic.php?id=884

#100 Re: Main Forum » Weird meta-idea: stuck in a life for an hour » 2018-04-18 15:53:12

What if i leave one server and then join another?

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