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What stops said griefer from running up and shackling you with one sitting around? What stops them from wandering into a new town with multiple shackles and start slapping them on whoever they can get close to. I'd rather be stabbed. Also if you are force fed you can't die, and are at this point an actual prisoner. I think this happened in Ark, players would get captured and log off, only to log on hours later and find that they had been fed and are still trapped against their will. Murder with bows and knives works in the game because it removes them and bans them, and makes it clear who did the act because of slowdown and inability to drop the weapon immediately.

More times than not when I have attempted to teach new players, they just don't listen. I am trying to talk you through the steps we are about to do, and you just run up and light the kiln and try using your hands to heat up iron when I was trying to show you how to fire the wet bowls then cap it for charcoal and THEN show how to pound out iron. My first and only thought was always would you stop trying to think and do, and just listen/watch. It lengthens the teaching process to the point that it feels fruitless, so therefore I just kind of gave up on it. Few are even willing to admit there are things they don't know, and their confusion clouts their ability to absorb information. This is why I hold you in regard for going into education Future, I couldn't do it. Even in a kitchen setting I have preached, just take a breath and do what you know how to do and stop overthinking everything and making yourself look like an idiot.

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Can't believe I actually found a chance to post a video of Tom Cruise as a Samurai and it fit....

I feel compelled to say thats pretty logical. With a small playerbase, it only takes a small amount of asshats to make that percentage be higher. Sure I was super pissed when someone just came up and stabbed me earlier while I was trying to make an engine. I did nothing to provoke it, was barely typing, shit don't even think I made it to 15yrs old that life. I was at a glance being way more productive than those around me, so they thought it would do most damage, because thats how they get their rocks off. The group of three women doing absolutely nothing, talking about juvenile topics and phallic jokes, naming kids Thanos... I knew it was a ticking time bomb and sure enough 10 minutes later my screen was flooded with red chat bubbles. The thing is though, they weeded themselves out pretty quickly and another 15 minutes later the village was peaceful. It's easy to get discouraged, and you might have just burned yourself out.

I do think how these players are handled could use a change. Donkey Town was created to get rid of destructive griefers that were breaking pens, hiding tools, locking rooms. The punishment was/is fairly steep as a deterrent. I don't think that is working anymore. I think cursing needs to be lightened up as more of a timeout instead of a prison sentence. Lower the curse limit to end up there, make the stay shorter at first but moves up in severity linearly. To stop people from abusing it, change it so you can only be cursed once per hour. If your past three lives you were doing stuff that really rubbed people the wrong way, have fun being in donkey town for 30min-1hr. I am not particularly happy about it, but my curse tokens have been burned like its my super special ability in an RPG - if it's up I am probably going to use it. Do I want to condemn someone to multiple hours of confinement, No. Do I want to remove them from the server for a brief time for myself and others and potentially make them log off for the day, Yes.

Quite a few of these have been mentioned already and have been talked about extensively. I'd like to break down a few of those points

• Tractors/Machinery

Would be cool of course, but I also don't think we have towns large enough to need that level of food production. It's pretty easy to spend 30 minutes being efficient and feed a LOT of people in the current state. There is a reason most stew plots are just 3x3 - That itself can make stew faster than it can be consumed by a long shot, especially if people are eating diverse foods and not solo eating one type of food.

• Tutorial

I do wish more time was spent on teaching slightly more advanced things. Most of the tutorial is very basic mechanics, but that also lends to the teaching aspect of the game. Jason wants players to teach each other things beyond temperature, hunger, how to harvest wild foods and to light fires. I will give you that its not often that nannies double as teachers. Back in the day I liked to try and teach newer people, but these days there is so much work to be done that it gets really hard to do both. Most of your veteran players that know things inside an out, are carrying a lot of weight especially with the necessity of higher tech like pumps. Having say a tutorial room that has all the newcomen machinery in it so you can make an engine could tread on the satisfaction of learning from trial and error in a live environment, or having someone teach you (either talking about each step or simply just watching them) Basic agriculture would be nice such as how to plant a berry bush, but then again once you understand you plant from seeds the rest comes pretty naturally, with slightly different steps. In the game engine the difficulty of higher tech is just longer series of steps, resources like onetech if you are a little familiar with game can really get you up to speed. Simply searching Bowl of Whole Milk and looking through the tree visual will get you from the first step of shooting the bison with calf all the way to getting the bucket of milk you fill it from. Spoon feeding that information would make the practice in game rather mundane in my opinion. Also the tutorial is in the game world on the server, once you break out what you can do it completely open. If you are determined to learn in game without being around others you technically can do all of the things you are asking for inside of there. I taught myself how to pump out as many tools as possible in one firing of a kiln there.

• Specializations

Very slippery slope. Best analogy would be property fence gates. How frustrating is it to not be able to open a fricken gate because someone hasn't come up and said you own this? I am not a master baker because someone came up and said "I pass on my knowledge..." I am a master baker because I learned how to make anything and everything that can come out of an oven. I don't need perks to tell me I am good at it, I spent the time to teach myself as a person to be good at it, an artificial barrier is not fun. A good farmer isn't someone who gets an extra berry or so from a bush, a good farmer is someone that knows how to organize and manage the berry farm, get stew plants from the wilds and make compost.

Not ragging on you, you are right, the learning curve is steep. Games with steep learning curves can be tough as nails, but also are way more rewarding when you get yourself above that curve. Adding bonuses isn't going to magically make people less bored, they are bored in the first place because they aren't attempting to challenge themselves to continue fighting the curve.

Odd it really felt like the arrow was not going off, maybe due to all the transitions of the hungry bear, but never felt like I had so many problems shooting one before. Granted don't use bows often.

I am also very sad to see fresh start camps leave the game, only to get replaced by reviving old towns, watching any other eve that strolls by wanting to do the same get slaughtered because paranoid players and lack of communication. Getting anywhere near the old feeling as JK stated takes you wasting half your fertility, thus leaving your children with an even harder game to play than before. You have so much less time to do anything, I don't want to run and run and run, just so I can make a few bowls and plates before getting old, hoping my kids make something of the pile of dung I attempted to hand them. Branching off is lackluster as well because there are ruins everywhere, iron dried up to lost civilizations. People used to accept the challenges of spawning in an eve camp and sometimes stay, now you are guaranteed to lose 90% of your kids because too many want the hard stuff done for them by someone else, and its very easy to attain that compared to before.

It is never a good idea to hack away an entire stage of the game, it only damages things. Perhaps in the far future, when tech has risen considerably, but not yet. Limiting Eve's down to a handful will only exacerbate the feeling that we are just living and dying over and over around the same walls.

I don't know exactly how to fix this without rolling back an update which is also not something that should be done. There are radical ways to approach it, but that also leaves a lot of room for concern.

I think the island idea, or oceans makes the most sense. Impassable terrain that needs higher level of tech to break through, a port/ship, a diesel powered drill to open up tunnels through mountain passes. Give Eve's a small chunk of map space, 400x400. If one of the towns in that slice matures and lives, techs out of there, the rest of the server can access them. Rather than having this gigantic proc genned map that NOBODY sees, the giant map is a quilt of player efforts. Something that has the chance of maintaining the feeling of sharing the world, and the feeling you can make something out of nothing.

Not trying to get into that life v.s game debate, but I learned enough spanish to fully communicate every need in a kitchen in less than a year, and at times find myself thinking in spanish. I think siempre way before I think always/all the time mentally because of immersing myself in using the language as an example. If you make it take your whole life, that means you will never get to functionally communicate with someone. This will only end up with people not talking to outsiders, not accepting them, and killing them, as we see now. Considering its not often that people type back and forth regularly in the same family, it makes the language update feel more like, only your family are worth effort or care. Thats why I think it should be closer to 60-75% flip to learn. Gamers will very often take the most efficient route when doing things. Taking time to sit there and talk, AND have to manually remember words that only have value for the next 30-45 min or even less, is not something many will do. Its a steel enforced brick wall of a barrier.

Two examples in one life. Was born to a actual starter camp, a struggling one at that. An eve came up right as I was born, so I started learning her language right away, quickly understanding TEAM and FRIEND and HELP and PEACE. My mother, she had no idea about the language update at all, thinking the Eve was Irish or something, asking repeatedly for the person to speak english. She wouldn't let go of the idea that we must kill her, asking all the kids to make a bow. When we, the kids said no, because we spoke both languages, my mother started to mass eat berries and then kill herself, leaving us to pick up the rubble.

When searching for iron, I found a settlement a minute away further ahead slightly than us. The last female died to a bear right as I got there, her baby girl starving before I could feed her with food. I thought that was everyone, but one middle aged guy remained. When I saw him there, while I was pillaging their stuff with my sister, he armed himself. My sister immediately wanted to run in fear but I held my ground and we attempted to communicate. Almost nothing got through but he eventually didn't see a purpose in shooting. I convinced the family to move to their spot, gathering all the kids, bringing everything we could and migrated as a group. When we got there, we started to live there, slowly shuffling things over. It was a rather short distance, just a couple biomes away, less than a minute walk in a straight SW line from our camp. It felt messy, which was cool and scary at the same time because of how close it was, and how cumbersome it was to get the kids to stop and listen. It was a really great moment, one of the better I have had in a few updates/weeks. The saddest part was the one person we lost, that wasn't a part of our story, the guy we moved in with. The language barrier was too intense for the adults, we didn't have time to struggle through and be able to maybe get a word or two across. I don't think there was any new kids that could have learned his language quick enough to translate to share this with him. He just got absorbed, quickly becoming the outsider as we were the majority. He died probably with no idea what was going on, alone among strangers that all were watching him out of the corner of their eyes.

Perhaps the language has too harsh of a barrier? I really really like it, but its so gibberish in nature that it is a mountain to climb. In a real life setting there are so many other ways to start building communication beyond language, text is really one of the hardest ways to approach this gap. Imagine taking spanish class as a teen in school, but the language is never visualized well or spoken, its all from a texbook, not very productive. I think it needs to be a little easier to start to learn a language from someone, and that it didn't completely mangle the words. If you are a kid and people are talking around you often it feels right, but later on... Not a chance, which is why people just choose to kill. You can't ask them any questions, they can't give you any assurances. Even if some just say screw it and get to work, many stop working an obsess about removing the outsider. Part of me looks down on them, the other part understands with how much blood has stained the game recently. Swords and Language should have been weeks apart from each other, and also awareness to changes needs to be higher for those that don't use forums/discord or even go to the website. My mother literally thought the person was speaking Irish or Icelandic or something, and it was too hard as a child to tell her what was being said. Jason you have kids, you know once they start talking they sometimes keep going forever. Having to wait such a long time to even spit out one complete sentence worked before, but feels really bad when you realize that you are the only bridge between the two families and you can barely get out FR-IE-ND DO-NT-KI-LL PL-EA-SE.

I know what you want to see, actually reminds me of the old movie starring Dennis Quaid called Enemy Mine. Sworn enemies of different species, stranded on an harsh alien planet together. They are forced to work together to survive against the odds. Slowly learning eachothers language (obviously primarily english learned by the alien) they become best friends and rely on each other saving each other from death multiple times. It took years of living essentially on an island struggling against the elements and for food to get to this point. When the alien dies in childbirth, he makes the human man swear to teach his/her (asexual hermaphrodite species) the alien language that has been shared, to allow the child to join its people by reciting its ancestry in native tongue, a right of passage. When that Child brings forth their own offspring to do the same, its' name is added to it's people - Willis Davidge, the name of the human that saved the Child and completed the deathbed oath.

We can't share our stories with people outside our family easily enough, so it doesn't happen. The best you can hope for is nervous peace and maybe a couple words here and there. This I believe, causes conflicts and paranoia that is plaguing the game right now.

The ultimate grief, condition people to only know how to live in a cities that countless lineages have been in. Trigger the apocalypse, 75% of the playerbase doesn't know how to start from scratch. Obviously an exaggeration, but early game and big parts of mid game have been completely removed from the game.

My thoughts on weakest aspect of the game, a large part of the game has been made invalid - pioneering new settlements.

I feel you, if you live in the midwest, everything becomes a cross country trip, not much happens here. All I get are summers that get up to 100 and winters that get to -20, thanks to you Minnesota.

I feel like it will just be used in towns. Spending 10-20 iron to attempt to connect a resource to a town still doesn't feel viable. In the time you could build the track you could deplete and haul the resource with a cart. If anything making tracks use wrought iron instead of steel would make them a little cheaper. Still you would run into the problem of, linking an iron mine to the town thematically makes the most sense, so you would tap a mine just to use it all on the track... I think we really need mine tech similar to pumps. Chance to exhaust the mine but could use tech to keep at them to make a track viable. Seems odd that we can hook up diesel engines to water sources to pump water from the ground, but as soon as our couple beams and bucket on an iron mine runs out, thats it.

These days when I am born as a boy and the town doesn't need water tech I set home marker and head out. Don't come back till i have a horse cart and supplies. If town was a cluster, un organized, stuff planted everywhere with no rhyme or reason, i bring what i dind somewhere else. You can't throw a stone without finding something or someone.