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Hello, long time player and forum lurker, just popping in to give my two pence. I only played a few rift games and took a break until it was removed, but I don't think this new followers update will be removed so I'm waiting for the novelty of it to wear off so I don't see ranked people roleplaying and shanking eachother and myself for not taking part in the hierarchy. I already saw this kind of thing happen in the newest Twisted video.

The concept is interesting, but there can't be war before multicultural trade. There can't be multicultural trade before a sense of appartenence. There can't be a sense of appartenence if we get to live in every family and every town.
Right now, we have none of all that.

How in the hell did this even blow up so big?

Dodge wrote:

But the basic concept is you have to work and be invested within your community in order to survive and by doing so you eventually forget that you where about to grief that said community or/and become attached to that community and lose the will to grief it in the first place.

Dodge ...  you aren't thinking like a griefer.    You are thinking about what would make YOU care about the village and become more invested in its future success.   What would make the game feel better and more engaging for you in particular.   There's nothing wrong with that.  But as you have pointed out to other people, your challenge was to think like a griefer.   Not like yourself, but on a bad day. 

True griefers are sociopaths.    Other people aren't real to them.   They don't form bonds with their community.   They don't care about any of that touchy-feely crap that gives you a warm feeling inside.   They don't get those nice feelings that other people talk about.     

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So let's talk about sociopaths, shall we?

Clinically-speaking, "sociopath" is a term used to describe someone who has antisocial personality disorder.  People with ASPD can’t understand others’ feelings. They’ll often break rules or make impulsive decisions without feeling guilty for the harm they cause.    People with ASPD may also use “mind games” to control friends, family members, co-workers, and even strangers.    Some sociopaths may be perceived as charismatic or charming by the people around them, because they have become adept at handling social interactions and reading emotional cues.   The terms "sociopath" and "psychopath" are sometimes used interchangeably, but from a clinical perspective, either label could be used to describe a person with ASPD.

ASPD is part of a category of personality disorders characterized by persistent negative behaviors.

The new edition of the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders says that someone with ASPD consistently shows a lack of regard for others’ feelings or violations of people’s rights. People with ASPD may not realize that they have these behaviors. They may live their entire lives without a diagnosis.

To receive a diagnosis of ASPD, someone must be older than 18. Their behaviors must show a pattern of at least three of the following seven traits:

* Doesn’t respect social norms or laws. They consistently break laws or overstep social boundaries.
* Lies, deceives others, uses false identities or nicknames, and uses others for personal gain.
* Doesn’t make any long-term plans. They also often behave without thinking of consequences.
* Shows aggressive or aggravated behavior. They consistently get into fights or physically harm others.
* Doesn’t consider their own safety or the safety of others.
* Doesn't follow up on personal or professional responsibilities. This can include repeatedly being late to work or not paying bills on time.
* Doesn’t feel guilt or remorse for having harmed or mistreated others.

ASPD can be diagnosed in someone as young as 15 years old if they show symptoms of a conduct disorder. These symptoms include:

* breaking rules without regard for the consequences
* needlessly destroying things that belong to themselves or others
* repeatedly stealing
* lying or constantly deceiving others
* being aggressive toward others or animals

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Read over those symptoms a few times and tell me if it sounds like a griefer to you.   Now think about how you would convince a SOCIOPATH to care about his village.   

Because that's pretty much what you are dealing with.    People who have anti-social tenancies in real life, given the ability to act on their inner feelings through the medium of an anonymous multiplayer game.    Chances are pretty high that they show some of those same symptoms in the real world, whether or not they have been professionally diagnosed.   Sociopathy is not rare condition, unfortunately, and it is likely to go undiagnosed in people who are better at avoiding notice and controlling their impulses.   That's what we are dealing with when we have a serial griefer in the game.   Someone who enjoys hurting other people and keeps doing it, life after life, even when they know the behavior is harmful to others.

A few of them counted it. Atleast one of the sids babies did and one of my sids grandkids. The others were either new and died from starving in a functional town. But yeah definitely not good on my score at all. Maybe it stops counting them after a certain amount?

IIRC first time murder was introduced you would just get instant death black screen and murderer would have no cooldown, so definitly a long way from we have now.

Also I doubt griefers would actually stick around under those conditions and not just straight up leave. Again you are making a lot of assumptions about a griefer's wishes here.

jcwilk wrote:

I kind of wish that donkeytown still let other griefers spawn as your children (it doesn't right?) so that it made kind of a good place / bad place dynamic. Why not let the players who cause outrage have outrage together? xD

You can still get babies as a donkey it's just rare to have 2/60 people so disliked that their both exiled at the same time. Getting sent to DT in the current version of the curse rework is pretty much reserved for 12 year olds and people with an IQ of a potato.

I really wish there was an early warning system for animals that are about to kill you. Like for a wolf that is nearby, give it a howl so you know that you should be careful and for a boar give it some grunting noises.

These would really help out because a boar is not actually silent when its out in the wild. Also its not like they stalking us down like prey. I would be minding my own business then BOOM im stabbed in the chest by a boar. Like damn, can I not just enjoy nature?

Anyways, an early wanring system for animals that can potentially kill you would be super helpful.