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darn

yeah, one person & a community between admirers & haters
& everybody is screaming to be heard

i don't envy Jason
it's hard to be a dev, but it's even harder to be a sole dev

yeah, it's his choice to be a sole dev, but it's always a choice, no matter what

Hail Jason !
he does a hell of a job !!!

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why making players artificially bound to biomes ?

if biomes were better equipped, more distiguishable, so that different cultures can develop, then players wouldn't feel the urge to leave in that particular life that particular biome, but traders might want to or nomads as well

add more options for different life design

atm
all lives are more or less same because there is only one viable option to progress
all towns are same, all Eve's camps are pushed down one line of development only, not only there is no digression from that but you get punished for any digression

if you think this thought further, then at some point players start to optimize that one tech tree progression & Eve's camp development, because there is just not even one alternative to live

you're Eve ?
make hatchet - tick
make fire bow - tick
make kiln - tick
make pots - tick
make berry farm - tick
make carrot farm - tick
make sheep pen - tick
collect iron - tick
...
& so on
down one line - over & over & over again

that's why i don't like to play Eve at all, it's stressful but at the same time, it's always the same
you have to tick off all the necessary points, if you don't then you get punished, but there is no deviation, which would be as viable as this one line of development

it's meantime like painting by numbers,
thus boring if you know what you have to do
& it's optimizable,
there are meantime many players who have optimized that one line of development to perfection & those players seem to draw some sort of fun by repeating it, but this won't last forever, at some point even those players get bored with the repeat & start first asking for tech tree updates to rush through those (mobile gameplay with constant linear content updates), then they start to roleplay some fantasy lives, which harm the development for others & then they start to grief or they leave the game - because bored with painting by numbers

solution to that is

make different paths of development possible
make alternative to iron, to wood, to reed, to clay, to wool, to thread, to rope ...

* that's why asked several times for an option of a stone axe & stone knife, to at least being able to live a nomadic life & not being bound to settle

but there would be more options for more diversity of life design
eg,
* copper would make tools as well, but those would be less sturdy while still viable if abundandly available
* add hard wood workable with stone already & you'd get wood tools on par with metal tools, if there was an abundance of wood but no copper & no iron in long proximity, players woul develop wood tools

alternative solutions to necessities of life would make a more interesting gameplay

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if there was reward for playing constructively you still would do it

it's the dilemma IRL too, do it because it's right, don't do it because you get rewared

but if you do it right & you don't get rewarded while people who do it wrong get rewarded, even for harmful things, then the society is going down the drain
that's why living in war zones is as depressing as people choose to become suicide bombers because to die for becomes more worth than to live for no future, living in corrupt states is making people poor & leave, living in high violence states is thwarting development

yes, i feel indeed like an idiot because i play vanilla & that's the problem

a vanilla player shouldn't feel that way at all

i felt & still feel the same way about playing constructively
playing griefer is just more rewarding, add to that all the attention they constantly get ...
& this right here feels like living in a corrupt state

mods should be modifications, which are cosmetic
but a zoom mod is improving the gameplay significantly & that's skewing the gameplay in the wrong direction, into cheating

zoom mod users are taking directly gameplay away from me, i did encounter it already
i discovered once in my short sighted vanilla way an iron vein, did get back to settlement, told another player only to get the answer that they know it already, although they didn't leave settlement at all, they just looked around with their zoom
so why should i strain myself for others, if my efforts as vanilla player are less worth than if using zoom mod ?
this situation is thwarting my gameplay
& yes, there's no serious griefer without zoom mod

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unfair is if i am being punished for playing vanilla & players using a zoom mod are being rewarded by easier gameplay while Jason says that his reasons not to include zoom are for esthetical reasons, while players using zoom mod do it for practical reasons
in the end i am being punished by Jason, he betrays his own ideas, players not playing vanilla are being rewarded by easier gameplay, which is allowed by Jason though he doesn't like it
just because he doesn't like it doesn't make him block the usage, thus betraying his idea & betraying vanilla players
that he allows a mod which makes life in OHOL significantly easier is the betrayal of those sticking to Jason's original way to play the game

i have there a deeper going problem,
it's not about that i could or couldn't use the mod,
it's about Jason not supporting players who stick to his vision of the game but inviting all those who play it their way

it's the same pattern with griefers,
there is much greater care for players who grief than players who play constructively
griefers destroy intended gameplay but get rewarded by attention & even an own set of features, curses & Donkey Tonkey
while constructive players are just being taken for granted, there is no blessing system & they don't get any form of reward for playing supportively

that very same pattern is even visible in the lack of care within the gameplay
players don't care much for each other, mothers abandon their babies, brothers kill, aunts grief, players suggest usage of ancestors bones for recipes, family is family tree & roleplay, there is no genuine care for each other within the gameplay, no reward, no feature surrounding care for each other

the same pattern
greater care for players who skew intended gameplay
no reward or care for players who stick to the original concept

that way, my respect for the intended gameplay is lacerated
same as it is lacerated by the players who grief & use a zoom mod
to grief & use a zoom mod is the result of that reduced respect,
i can't play that way, i can play games only if i respect the ideas & the makers
if i am not being rewarded for playing by the book but for playing against, then i don't want to play at all

well, i doubt anybody here understands the problem
i am even hesitant to write things like this, since nobody cares to look closely at what's happening
not even Jason does, which leaves me in even a deeper crisis

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why do you assume that i build only bad roads ?

players work against me because they can, not because what i am doing is harming the town or the work flow, there are players who just do what they want to
same as i do encounter players who help or i help them building a road or a farm border

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yeah, let us just head towards the next disaster, it will be fun

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no, i demand that any solution is presented for vanilla players

any further representation of any mod as solution is a tryout to fix the game with a mod
i am strictly against mods fixing gameplay problems

& yeah, thanks for the advice to not participate
it's always the same - if someone is not fitting in, then they are minority & should scram
interestingly, we are talking here about the vanilla gameplay, means, how the game is meant to be played
if that has to become monority, than thanks Jason, you've done a great job of ousting players who play your game as you meant it

& no, i am not pushing a crusade against a mod, i am being pushed to use a mod because more & more players are using it & therefore expect that i am using it too & they are building towns for zoom mod players, vanilla players are lost in them
playing vanilla becomes frustrating, that's why even players are pushed to use the mod

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non lethal violence will be used by griefers
capturing people is already happening with one door houses, any other addition to that will end up in more griefing
(the new fences add another layer to that with prisoners from birth)
so far all "guards" in the game ended up killing someone, out of boredom

the griefing rate in OHOL is very high compared to crime IRL
& that's because life in OHOL is too bland, just to live to survive is just not enough to live at all

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a mod by definition is a modification to the regular gameplay

if a mod is fixing a gameplay problem, then that's not a modification anymore

& you, same as many other players have repeadedly stated that they will stop playing if they are not able to use a zoom mod anymore
because it makes their gameplay significantly easier while those players have absolutely no consideration or understanding for my harder gameplay & that it becomes increasingly frustrating to be punished for playing vanilla

as it looks now
i will have to stop playing because i refuse to fix a game problem by using such a mod
because Jason refuses to realise how hard it is for me & any other vanilla player to play meantime without a zoom mod while a growing number of players use it

that's what makes me angry
& what makes me sad

this game made me many times very sad & not because of the stories in it but because of the lack of gameplay fairness
this zoom mod situation is another gameplay unfairness

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yeah, slowly it becomes a deal breaker for me

town after town it becomes apparent that players i play with are using a zoom mod & they expect me to act as they do, they expect me to find stuff, to find my way while i can't see further than few tiles away

& the number of people using a zoom mod is growing, since the fence update it's extremely apparent
nobody could build such widely spread towns & big buildings without a zoom
one of the reasons why i don't build, i can't see where's what

no zoom, no map
& i am punished for playing vanilla - great

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players use the zoom mode not because they are hardcore but because they like to have it easier

to play vanilla is hardcore

most towns are built with the help of the zoom mod & i am quite often just lost because i have absolutely no orientation,
now with the fences update it became even more apparent, players build not only the fenced areas but the entire towns while using zoom mod, they are far more spread out, as they would be if using a farther view, not a narrow vanilla one

& if you refuse to include zoom into the game, then you should make it impossible to use the mod or at least harder for the mod players & not for those who play the game vanilla
the reality in game is - vanilla players are in disadvantage

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