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Can someone use twinning to avoid donkey town? Does it just depend on the curse status of the host?

I think if any one of the twins are in donkey town then that is where it should spawn them.

Thank you for working on the temperature system and asking for feedback. Here is what I would love to see.

1. Clothing always being good outside. Even if it isn’t in the proper biome, at least make it better than standing naked.

2. Floors and walls always being good no matter the biome, moving the temperature closer to normal the better the materials.

3. Jungle and desert are too good. Please nerf them by making them hotter so they are not as close to perfect temp.

4. Temperature is too important. The game can swing from too hard to too easy just based on the biome you are in. If biomes were nearly equally bad then this might not be as critical.

I would like to see the apocalypse have a chance to persist items, but degrade them. This way instead of a blank slate you end up with interesting ruins. Some of those stone walls could be crumbled, the bell tower might be half gone, some steel tools lose their handle, etc.

You can rebuild, but it becomes an interesting puzzle to use the resources that survived.

True anything with a decay time can be done in parallel. We could track the decay time for each object and remove overlapping decay times. If you have to wait 5 minutes on one object and 10 on another then combining them could be 10 minutes total decay.

The time estimate would be total man hours. You could divide it by the total players to estimate a larger village working efficiently.

Also this wouldn’t consider consumed food during that time and the time it takes to make the food. This is more for comparing objects relatively.

Right, this is where things get tricky. Each object needs to track the leftover objects and the uses they have left. When combining objects consider the objects used and subtract their uses.

The key difference between the two is the starting point. The tech tree starts from the given object, and the crafting recipe starts at its base ingredients. I usually use the crafting recipe page, but I see many still use the tech tree, I think because it is simpler.

Another difference is the Recipe page is more usable on phones. I want to keep that aspect of it.

The improved crafting page, I'm calling a Crafting Board, shows a simplified recipe for an object and a list of ingredients at the top. Clicking an ingredient will open that object in a new panel. This way you can expand the recipes as needed. You can even open two unrelated objects to see the shared resources between them.

This may end up replacing the tree view too, but I'll have to see what people think.

Mind maps usually expand outward in all directions from a central node (not just horizontally). I may end up doing a cool mind-map style graph after the Crafting Board. I think it will be more neat than useful, but still worth it.

I think the Crafting Board will be close enough to what you're envisioning. It won't be a true graph because I want it to be usable on mobile. However it should be quite useful.

An ingredient on the crafting recipe page is either a tool that doesn't get consumed or a naturally spawning object. As you pointed out, this means you get the full iron smelting process on a lot of recipes which isn't very intuitive. This is something I hope to solve with the Crafting Board.

I find difficulty to be hard to calculate in a reliable manner. At the moment the difficulty calculation is not much better than measuring difficulty by the item's depth in the tree. I hope to improve this in the future, but in the meantime I don't plan to use difficulty calculation for much.

Thanks for the suggestions! Good ideas.

Was it a custom server? If so was it using the latest server v193? And did they both say "High Frequency"?

We should report this on GitHub.

This is possible without the reflector and servers communicating. The state can be persisted on the client side. The server knows its own population and can be in charge of knowing if Eves can spawn. Here is a scenario.

1. Player connects to reflector which sends client to Server 5.
2. Server 5 has no eligible mothers so it attempts to spawn player as Eve.
3. Looking at its player count it is unable to spawn Eve and rejects the client.
4. The client remembers "I was rejected from Server 5"
5. The client reconnects to reflector passing a list of servers it has been rejected on
6. The reflector chooses a new server that doesn't match the rejected ones

While still a decent size change, it reduces the need for server communication.

I think we need a "partial shutdown" state where babies are allowed but not Eve spawns. At the moment server 5 never reaches the shutdown threshold because eves can still spawn. If we can disable eve spawning then lineages could die out naturally.

This would require some changes to the spawn code. If it tries to spawn an eve then it should send the client back to the reflector to choose a different server.

I've actually worked on this a bit to improve the difficulty info. In theory you could estimate how long it takes to find a natural object based on its spawn chance. Then add those two numbers together for each object up the chain. The challenge comes when you need to track reusing objects that you don't need to craft again because otherwise the numbers blow up really quickly.

I want to keep onetech focused on crafting recipes, but I'll consider a separate tool for browsing this data.

This is a cool idea. It would probably take a different type of graph view to represent it well.

This is a good point. I think it would be good to show multiple "How to get" in certain situations. I'll consider the best way to do this.

Do you mean a list of all natural resources used to craft something? This is a bit tricky because some items (such as tools) are used multiple times and you likely don't need to create those from scratch every time. The recipe page lists all the tools and natural ingredients for crafting something. For example, here is the Diesel Engine. However it isn't perfect since it considers some items as tools which aren't really.

I have a plan for a different style of recipe page which I think will solve a lot of these problems. We'll see.

I'm not sure what you mean by time estimates. There is a "Changes over time" section on each object page which tells you what happens over time.

That is a good idea. Currently the entire site is read-only so there's no database to track comments, but I think I could implement this fairly easily with a service like disqus. I'll look into it.

I agree this could be improved. The move distance is something in the object's file, and from my understanding they can only move further if there's an object on the ground. So a sheep can move more than 1 tile to jump over another object. I'm not sure what the limit on that is though.

Regarding the "Number of moves", this is how many times it moves before it transitions into another object. For example in the case of a domestic sheep it moves 10 times then changes to a "Domestic Sheep with Lamb" which can be seen in the "Changes over time" section.

I'll try to think of something to make this more clear.