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Being almost out of food is way more interesting than having way too much food.

Milk is currently totally broken, and could feed the whole village easily, but no one is drinking it.  Instead, I see 50+ berry bushes in every village still used for direct eating (instead of being used to feed animals and thus make more water-efficient foods).

Anyway, I've lived a few lives myself where we were ALMOST out of water in an advanced village.  It was tense and exciting, and a few of us banded together to save the day at the last minute by fetching a cart of buckets from a distant pond, to buy us more time for making the next rubber gasket.

That pretty much never happened before...

The point is this:  what I did in that life, and the choices that I made, actually mattered to the fate of my village.

I was not bored.

Tane wrote:

Fact is, this game has been hemorrhaging players.
Seems like the tutorial helped, but there's still a giant hole in lower tier tech which means instead of a rise to civilazation, progress is made in leaps and bounds.

Exactly what I thought.

Alias wrote:

Tarr, so you want changes to Apocalypse so it is doable by one person? Are you serious?

I want changes so it's doable in the first place. Are you telling me a six hour waiting period between adding is balanced vs ripping down three tiers in ten seconds is? Eighteen hours worth of work was removed in ten minutes (would be shorter but a kid had to grow up in the bunker.)  I'm asking for there to be some sort of way to it to be done in the first place.

Do you think the apocalypse should only be triggered by some supah secret club who afk guard it for 24 hours is in the spirit of the thing? I also want to see all the things I was abusing in the first place to even get that far to be fixed. By no means should there be a way for one person to just trigger the apocalypse like I was doing but making the apocalypse effectively impossible also shouldn't be a thing.

Crumpaloo wrote:

Dodge wrote:

Repeating 10 times the same thing doesnt make it more true or interesting

Lack of ressources is not the reason villages/towns die, so if that's the main motivation for this rant it's pointless

There is a lot of "accessible" content for new players if you are not willing to learn more ellaborate stuff you can make stanchion kits, get sheeps, smith etc..

Not everything needs to be useful, what isn't useful now might be in the future and just because YOU dont see a use in something doesnt mean it's useless

From a survival aspect, yes it is useless, it doesnt help get food, water, compost, tools, iron, etc.. Cars get stolen like that, not very useful if they are stolen, radios are pointless as of right now unless Jason does something to fix that, no village is gonna benefit from having a radio. So if Jason is just gonna keep adding content with no survival orientated purpose then i cant see me continuing to play a game where aesthetics are preferred over meaningful survival content.

Also look back at what i said, people that are working or have college aint got time to learn all this elaborate stuff, and as a result they are implicitly barred from accessing content they have no time to learn how to put together. Not including being born in the right village to make this.

And if i gotta wait 3 weeks for a radio to be useful then why did Jason not just wait until the content was complete before releasing it? You dont take a pie out of the oven half baked, why do the same with content?

Learning is part of the game and having more complex proccess to make something makes the game more interesting in that aspect, the argument of time makes no sense at all, you play the game like you want to play it, you can do only roleplay and not learn anything more than berries or even live in the wild all your life if you want it's up to you

If you dont want to learn more elaborate stuff it's your choice, you make it seem like making a radio,tv or gps satellite should be as easy as making a bow drill that makes no sense, off course it's going to be more complicated

Like i said before just because you dont see why something is useful doesn't make it useless, radio's for example can be used to connect towns even if they dont have a bell tower

For the rest you dont even know what might be added, cars could get passenger seat and you could transport people from one town to another

And for the morse machine you can see it as a training tool for newbies that want to get into electricity, since the future electric stuff will probably be much more complex

But you're right let's just stay farmers and use all the steel on basic tools, that seems fun

Crumpaloo wrote:

Tarr wrote:

You make it sound like putting an engine together is that hard in the first place. It's about learning and then putting your knowledge to use. If you've learned to smith you can learn to put an engine together.

Bore five items
Lathe ten items
Put together like a puzzle
????
Profit.

Even if you only have a few hours a week to play the game you can slowly learn the game over time. The crafting method in this game is set up so you actively learn how to do something. Once you learn something like smelting it's not something you're suddenly going to lose the next day. People should have something to look forward to eventually learning or getting to make. When the radio was finished between towns people literally just sat around talking because it's not something you'll get to do often.

What does it matter if he adds early game stuff if you aren't willing to learn anyways?

I just said Jason should add early game content BECAUSE its more accessible, the only way your going to have access to make a car is if the town your born into has a certain amount of tools you need to create it, aint no way your building engines in a early-mid civ and not dying of old age. On top of that the inventions are useless so even if a new player had the tools and knowledge on how to put it together they still wouldnt because it does nothing but waste resources and time they could be spending doing something more beneficial to their village. There aint no benefit to talking to people from far away and there aint no benifit in having transportation that goes 50% faster then another that can be replaced 10 times easier.

Repeating 10 times the same thing doesnt make it more true or interesting

Lack of ressources is not the reason villages/towns die, so if that's the main motivation for this rant it's pointless

There is a lot of "accessible" content for new players if you are not willing to learn more ellaborate stuff you can make stanchion kits, get sheeps, smith etc..

Not everything needs to be useful, what isn't useful now might be in the future and just because YOU dont see a use in something doesnt mean it's useless

Crumpaloo wrote:

Making cars and radios doesn't compare at all with the usefulness of your first newcomen pump, or iron axe. Whats better, a infinite water source, or a way to communicate with villages that wont benefit you? Same with cars, a easily made horse cart, or a walking stack of iron waiting to be stolen and abandoned somewhere noone will ever find it. My point is that losing a horse is alot less worst then losing a car, and the car doesn't give enough benefits for the potential lost of cost.

I don't think I've seen someone else trying to put these things together in anything other than end game towns. The amount of people who can even pull off putting together radios or engines has to be a rather small number in the first place. I personally push out the diesel engine for the pump (anyone who has been to a town of recently can probably see one of my diesel water pumps). Hell I even go as far to try to shove out the diesel engine before making a water pump if people actually work to help me.

The car is the fun and exciting part of the diesel engine and the water pump is the actual useful part. Do you know how much of a buzz kill it would have been for him to just shove out three water pump updates that were literally just him nerfing existing water to add more steps into getting back to where we were in the first place. It's like with the rubber update. Rubber ball is just something fun to play with vs the wheel which was the actual content of the update.

Even if you lose a car in the first place it's not like the city just magically runs out of iron. We're still at a point where you can make multiple engines and not risk running out of iron in a place before the civ "naturally" dies to griefing.

GreatShawn wrote:

Starknight_One wrote:

Please don't bump topics. If no-one is discussing the topic, it's not really of interest to others. Maybe add a post asking why others don't seem to think this is an issue, and actually pay attention to their responses instead of going off on a knee-jerk reaction?

Hey there, look how many replies i got after I refreshed, and this prooves my point: some people haven't seen this topic yet.

I've seen the topic and even posted before. The point was after seeing the update in action vs having a "what a goofy update" standpoint. While yes morse was essentially a useless update it was the building block for the next weeks update. It added everything needed to craft the next tier of radio while giving us a bluepoint on how to build the next thing.

It should really give the updates a try before having such a harsh standpoint on these sorts of updates.

Crumpaloo wrote:

Thats kinda the problem, theres alot more issues that have affect on the core gameplay of the game then these really expensive deck of cards, but instead of getting meaningful fixes, we get pointless toys that 80% of the player base doesn't know how to make.

While you might think something like cards are useless, the addition of cards + dice shifted a whole towns name and the thing it was known for. Mango town shifted to Casino town. This is probably one of the more well known and loved towns as of recent with a rich history that came from a "pointless" toy update.