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A feature such as this would be amazing in a game that didn't bounce you around every hour. My personal feelings are that there isn't enough time in one spot to care about wanting to trade, war, learn a language etc. If it was regional, all eves that spawn in X tiles of each other speak a param, then maybe. But then we will come back to the fact that the map generation doesn't support trade because resources are close together, and that there is poor long distance traveling. This is amazing work, but one that would fit better in MMORPG that had more permanence than OHOL.

Water balancing still feels off, either there are 15 ponds nearby or you are rushing newcommen as eve, cold biome buildings have little value, SIDS epidemics, we can make engines but can't make a god damn box that holds more than 4 things, there is a lot of things on the plate that could use attention, and we are now dreaming about dessert.

I am agreement for having them be a touch slower in the first year. Had a baby dodging pick up while whistling constantly, purposefully trying to mess with baby timer, was maddening.

Nice list Jason, combining 3 and 4 is... a trip...

My thoughts are:

• Capped out at 15-20

• After reaching cap next food item starts a new chain

• Basic foods only give one yum

• Processed foods give varieties of 2+ yum

By capping it out and making it reset after capping, a stable variety of food sources are wise to keep around. Breaking a chain mid way would suck, but it was going to happen eventually. Basic foods would remain pretty much unchanged for Eve's, they would still get to same yum's they did before. Later generations wouldn't have to rely on wild food that might be picked clean as yum boosters like wild onions, carrots and burdock. You would feel general life getting slightly easier as the town develops and has a variety of food available. Specialist food makers would be welcomed and necessary, instead of that one guy that actually made burritos or tacos. There would be a reason to have pigs if tacos gave 4 yum, and was a staple in the towns chains. All raw and coal roasted food such as eggs, rabbits and geese worth 1 yum. Pies/stew and broths 2 yum. Foods like burritos, tacos, chips, fries, kraut worth 3. Still mulling over how you stop players just eating the same top end food over and over. Making it reset exacerbates that, but also didn't want it to be easy to stack a chain up with a bunch of high yum foods and keep it going for ages by going through raw foods by refreshing the chain. Maybe you can't use a food item from the previous chain? If you were mentally keeping track of say 5-10 items from previous chain and planning out next 5-10 wouldn't be too bad. I did rabbit pie last time so i will do mutton this time, ice cream plus tacos , now kraut plus burritos this time. 

Yum chains right now are really delicate, and relatively an off to the side feature. Not many use it, and the users range from, in the back of the head trying for small chains to full yumophiles that will spend a good portion of time scouring for that last wild food they need for their chain. I would like it be a more widespread mechanic, that everyone grasps and utilizes. Less common food items that aren't as nourishing could be good for yum, a delicacy that you don't waste for hunger. Having a stable variety of food being produced would be another sign of town advancement. You would want to have a steady supply of the items. Farming space would increase because you would need more crops like beans and corn and tomatoes going. We would be eating a lot more of the food often, instead of just eating mutton pies until the civilization dies out. There would be more pressure to do well techs and have multiple springs tapped, because you would use more water for farming and soil making.

I like the idea of seeing ponds as temporary water sources that can't be upgraded. That once you get a little bit of a food supply going, you should be looking towards wells and relocating the starter camp.

I see where you are coming from on the zero consequences. Even if you only get cursed when killing griefers you at some point become a martyr. But, five hours is a lot for long term accumulated curses. I'd say that if the curses are spread out and just pass the threshold a 1 hour trip, one life, would be better. If the curses have been gained all within a short amount of time, and you have recently been in donkey town, you will have a much longer stay.

Thank you for catching the "don't do that" part of this. Don't do this things are bad for new players, and really good for griefers. To be honest I wouldn't add timers like you are suggesting ever simply because of players with bad intentions. Few clicks here and there, and now if the town doesn't shift to building pumps right away, they will die. Oh because they had to shift focus too early, they will die, because camps are tightropes before you get to later well techs.

Solutions that put more weight behind well tech I believe are better options. A plausible reason as to why high number pond towns last longer is because there is a better time buffer until someone that knows how to do high level water tech comes along. The catch-22 of it is though, because we usually settle around so many ponds, there isn't as big of a push to do pumps so fewer know how to do them. If it became more of a sheep like thing "Hey guys if we don't get sheep/wells going this town is without question dead" more would learn how to do it.

A greatly needed change with some unfortunate drawbacks. It started the path down to the tri-biome meta. That unless you had swamp/grassland/desert starting point it was a lot harder to get off the ground. You needed the dirt, you needed the water, and the perfect temp tiles for babies was absolutely needed. If you couldn't find a spot like that before a certain age as an eve, you'd just give up. We also lost the ability to have towns in biomes like badlands and savannah, you can get by with having dirt be hauled but not both.

What if there was something that spawned in other biomes that could be converted into a water source so it could be controlled? It could be an existing thing like converting a cactus or squash plant or something. A new item added, or something more radical.

• Lessen ground iron

• Heavily increase vein spawn rate and cut down iron per vein by 60%-70%

• Veins mineable with pickaxe at high break rate. Should expect one pick per vein but bad luck could mean two or even three picks.

• Empty Iron pits or Collapsed Iron Mines able to be converted to water source with shovel

With something like that, you could damn near eve camp on a badlands. If there was a way to consume wolves or wild mouflon without a knife, say like on a spit over coals/fire, you would be able to get by as hunters until you raced to compost and wells and started farming, taking a breath when you get stew going. Same for savanna, you would haul water to make rabbit pies from wild wheat until you could get enough water to start farming. Maybe make it so you can carry water pouches in packs or basket, and savanna towns would be know to start off with lot of packs and water pouches instead of lot of pottery. Certainly would break up the monotony that can exist in early game, as you usually follow the same pattern for all eve camps.

Yeah I still laugh about Jason saying he wants us to care about families. The second my mother that did a great job her whole life turns into a pile of bones, its now a nuisance. Pretty much it seems like the ONLY thing that makes people hate of graves is the shovel. I would totally devote a life to making a graveyard with rose bushes, trees pillars and such, if I didn't feel like I was using town food up and griefing the iron supply. Pleasefix

And you would be holding the thing you need to get water from a deep well. No more, oh crap all the wells are deep wells and I can't find a bucket to water the plants moments. Doing any action per tile for me is actually enjoyable, but the tasks that require back and forth are not enjoyable. Rather than ask for changes to current mechanics, such as being able to use a bowl on a berry bush, adding in fun tech items is the way to go. What is currently lacking is a sense of evolution of basics tasks as a settlements tech level increases. As soon as you go beyond a water pump, its all for novelty items essentially. We are sitting there dipping clay bowls into wells/ponds/buckets back and forth per plant, meanwhile on the other side of town, they are starting to pump for oil. They have to pick berry by berry and go back and forth to the bowl, constantly to make compost, sometimes going 4+ tiles from the bowl because of mega patches. We are sailing through the skies on planes, offroading our go-karts around the wilderness, usually getting lost or stuck. It just doesn't translate. If I were walking by the berry field and saw it needed a lot of attention, I would feel more compelled if there were better tools to it en mass. To have something allowing us to soil/water more than one crop per trip, taking care of some of the basic farming would be more communal. Sure I will spend two minutes renewing couple dozen bushes as I was on my way to do something else, next time someone else will do the same. Give us some carpentry items from putting long shafts and curved shafts etc through lathes, that is used on a berry bush then can be used on a bowl, it holds twelve berries so you can fill two bowls in one trip.

Best reply I have gotten in regards to this is to think of milkweed as a crafting resource like a tree. Realistically it shouldn't change when domesticating the plant.

Would having a system for generational preference alleviate some issues? Could end up with less sids if players could toggle a preference for gen 1-10 or gen 10+. Not a guarantee but higher chanc

He offered a solution as designating an area away from camp to store items. It had nothing to do with the zoom mod, you made it about the mod. You are now demanding that any visual solution be presented in a way you deem valid. You are pushing this crusade against the mod too far Breeze. If you can't stand it so much, don't participate in the community man.