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yeah that was gong crazy, i spawned around 3 other eves! then disconnected and was born to another eve, then went to smoke a cigarette thinking i'd have time to run in and eat and starved, but i dunno if it would have been another disconnect
Sad thing is, before that all started i was in an extraordinarily promising eve camp, just only had 1 bb and was trying to yum chain for fertility.
I still wonder what went wrong that made 4 eves spawn together lol
The really weird thing, is there were old graves and already spawned stuff in my wanderings. How did it spawn me near old graves?
I don't just slap my name on stuff in exchange for money. That's not how I operate.

I love how you think in general, this is a rough situation, practically and theoretically.
I would just add, I don't think in China, where piracy of Western games has been rampant for decades, anyone is turned off by saying "unofficial port"
TBH, i'm pretty convinced that if we actually send out iron expeditions and recycle, we do in fact have the relative prosperity to be able to afford to bury our dead.
a while ago, I stupidly suggested that we need to be able to recycle iron. I found out, that you already can. Fortunately people were nice about it, but since I've been looking for it, one rarely sees scrap iron around
Since then, i've been taking all of my broken tools back to the blacksmith, and asking others to do the same.
It doesn't appear there is any culture of iron recycling in this game.
We talk a lot about uses of iron tools, but i am wholly convinced we are losing far more iron to failure to recycle than misuse of tools.
anyway, my point is just that we should try and do better about returning tools and explaining to the playerbase the importance of recycling iron.
Firstly, i'm really hostile to IP, and admire Jason's choice to put this in the pubic domain.
However, i've unsuccessfully tried to convince a lot of people to play this game, which is how I found out about the mobile version.
Even with my feelings on IP, I got a bad feeling from the general premise of making a mobile game that was a direct copy. it wasn't obvious to my friend that it was an unofficial adaptation (this is a month or so ago)
There's not a great solution here, and it is my view that the mobile developers are broadly deserving of the profits they've earned for the work which has been done, including adapting and translating. I think it's going to be a net positive for the PC game userbase [and it would suck to play on a touch screen anyway, i don't think they can make a better experience]
I don't think there's more to be done than accept "An unofficial mobile adaptation of the open-source game by Jason Rohrer" in the description and remain feeling kind of uncomfortable about it.
Though, adding native support for Asian languages would really help you cash in on the game's popularity in Asia.
I'm guilty of some of the described things lol, I'm for sure the curmudgeon. I'm sometimes a complainer, but usually I have some sot of plan.
As an elderly person i am definitely actually useful in saying what needs to be done.
i'm quite the survivor, though i usually don't hide food behind trees. I do generally believe that things work the best if people ensure personal survival.
A big one i see is the person who purports to know what he or she is doing then drops dead of starvation in childhood. If children do as i tell them, and make basket and carry food, it is not that damn hard to not starve.
OMG Dodge you have changed my life.
Also you can plant from bowl of wheat, that changed my life. One time just before i found that out wheat had "ran out" and i was running to get it and it despawned on me etc lol
As far as things i want, i'm not much of an advanced tech guy so there's not like, a specific thing i'm crazy for, but I'd like to see more use for existing things
- no carcasses should be useless, and on top of food, there should be fat as a resource, from seals and pigs.
- multiple compost recipes. I KNOW Jason didn't want there to be a "Best" food, and with mutton pie as a byproduct of compost it always will be
- multiple recipes for stew, and also the ability to make succotash. (There's no reason a stuffed squash couldn't be set on sharp stone. And how are there no stews that use carrots, potatoes, or milk)
- kerosene heat
- full body robes for the desert that still help you with heat in cold biomes.
- the ability to have two home markers. You'd need a way it isn't confusing, but potentially just a second way to make them that is a different marker.
and seals respawn now right? I had heard someone say that they don't, but i was seal hunting and one seemingly appears out of the ice right in front of my eyes. I also happened to see one of the carcasses despawn.
for an early camp, if you're near a good amount of ice, it's very worthwhile to club the seals and bring those back. Not too hard either, just set a basket with food down in the ice and come back with two at a time, knowing where food is for your journey.
or better yet on your front so you can still wear a backpack.
i kind of feel like it would be better if it was an actual place, as maybe they could practice being productive, though it would just give them more shit to mess up I suppose.
huh, i just got yellow fever by myself with a sealskin coat on and was fine, but i usually have some yum bonus when running around, and was on ice.
so i'm still unclear, is Donkey Town just random wilds, or does it send players to the same place every time?
the ash pile actually disappears pretty damn quickly once you move the crock off of it. I don't know how long but it couldn't be more than 2 minutes.
And yeah, make the stew at a station and then deliver it to various places. i often start the fires myself, but a decent amount of players are smart enough to make a raw stew pot you leave near them.
I like to set up one in the nursery, one by the bakery, and one by the fields if I'm making stew. It's one of the more convenient foods for sitting next to you while you're working.
The game isn't hell, it's quite fun. A family made it into the 90th generation post update, a longer family line than there had been in the weeks before.
The trailer showed someone dropping dead from hunger. The most mainstream recognition this got, from a vice article, made it very clear the challenges of living to adulthood and understanding the game world.
This game was never meant to be a chatroom where people stand around naked in the desert.
BTW Pro-tip: the games on GOG are DRM free and you can legally download torrents of any of them. So you could have got literally hundreds of games for free easily, but chose to pay $20 for server access to this one. It's really not Jason's fault if you personally don't enjoy this game, that other players clearly like very much.
Also there are other great open-source games a person could play that don't require paid server access. Some of my favorites are Open Transport Tycoon Deluxe, Battle for Wesnoth, and FreeCol.
I'm not really sympathetic to this argument that you don't have money for other games. Most games I play are free.
why do they need a ticket to use your private server?
Obviously, if they're paying for the game and can't access it, that's a major problem, but what you're paying for is server access
we really need to be able to stack bowls of food so you can just deliver 5 stews to the berry bushes, though i've just been strategically placing my stew pots, since you can move them until the moment you set them on the fire
in general, buying a video game is a gamble.
If it works on your computer and you can connect to the servers and the game is playable, a person is not generally entitled to a refund.
FFS it's a $20 dollar game and you have lifetime access. The fact that a bunch of us love the game and play it all the time shows that whether or not one likes it is a matter of taste and preference.
This is a weird experimental game, that should have been obvious when purchasing server access.
Edit: what does "sleeping user" mean? Suspended?
are ones that spawned previously still there? The wild lassos? I was on an iron run after this and still saw one. fortunately, it was right where my cart had tipped over, so i'm not complaining
But it was also in a desert biome that had three trapped horses in a small space, so i'm not sure if someone had just biomelocked the horses and left a lasso or what. it didn't seem like anyone had been around.
I gotta say, now that i know smithing it's both not that complicated and also something i always find myself hopping in and out of doing lol
Though in my last life i did really successful iron runs, and brought home almost 40 total.
towns aren't meant to last that long, and not that many people play on these lowpop servers.
Were you around when there wasn't decay and Eves spawned in the center of all the human made objects? It became terrible.
it could be as easy as clicking on oneself while holding a flint chip.
honestly, when i wasn't playing for like 6 or 7 months blacksmithing was more specialized when i left, and now a bunch of people just know how to do it so it's often being done.
But I was in a camp that would have survived if i was confident enough to smith quickly (really just badly needed a shovel to dig out the empty pits) and i realized i really need to know how to do it.
I've been teaching more people how to make stew and sauerkraut, both really helpful skills. I always try to teach noobs what I can.
Though my main advice is still "Make basket, always carry food" if we're in an even slightly wild camp. That's the most important thing for living long enough to learn anything else ![]()
I need to start actually learning carpentry in this game, i'm sure it's not complicated, i'm just not that interested in building. [though it seems to be what a lot of other people enjoy, so i've rarely been in a situation where anyone needed me to be a builder]
I'm having some new problems since these updates. Now there are random disconnects where the screen just goes black suddenly, and I saw someone else lagging into a berry bush. This happened 5 in my last childhood. It hadn't happened the one before where i was in an Eve camp, so it seems to be affected by the number of people and items around.
The screen also doesn't track my character as well now, especially when i'm being held, I'm on the edge of the screen a lot more.
ahhh, i've only been using eggs to reduce acidity due to the little mites. I just compost my spent potting soil. the other thing is there's a spout on the bottom for the worm tea and i've never had excess moisture.
I don't know if it would be way too much to add rot for food to this game as opposed to just despawning, it would be cool if we had worm bins. I really think we can be getting other uses out of these clay crocks.
Edit: I was also just reminded of the movie Fantastic Planet, which is quite a bit like this game in some ways, I imagine Jason may have been influenced by it lol Though I can't easily find pictures that are mostly of the humans, as opposed to the huge aliens.
I definitely want kerosene stoves for warmth so we're not using all the wood all the time, it does become a problem later one, and since we have kerosene anyway...
I'm for sure one of these people who doesn't learn end game, in part because i'm more interested in agriculture in general but also because there's always so much shit to do to keep a village alive.
I did finally learn blacksmithing though in my string of being men in new villages that didn't survive yesterday. Usually there are other people trying to do it and i don't want to be in the way. I was so proud of myself when I produced the villages first axe and shovel too