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I’m disappointed that this wasn’t continued on the subreddit.  I liked the idea of at least a daily post on there to keep it semi-active.

NoTruePunk wrote:

It's a group game, which means the path of the family isn't up to any one person to decide

Sure it's a group game, but any decisions made by family members which take the family outside of the path of rebuilding from scratch implies that the family gets further away from rebuilding from scratch.  The game also gets advertised that rebuilding from scratch is possible, at the very minimum.

NoTruePunk wrote:

When an eve resettles an old city the problem isn't their stage of progression at that point, it's that they didn't build it. But the players themselves likely did ...

I don't think that the same players likely did so.  Or at least, there exists some question about how often it's the same players.  I think they are often different players.  Or different players get affected by such.

NoTruePunk wrote:

I think denying them the chance to continue their progress due to server pop is kinda rude.

They could, in principle, continue their progress without regard to server population if (some) members of the family could get reborn near to their previous death location, similar to how Eve-chaining works.  There could exist a choice screen for players to activate such a possibility, or to get born into a random context, or Eve context, where they might rebuild from scratch with others.

Also, I don't see why it gets deemed rude that some players can't continue their progress.  The game has the name One Hour One Life.  There clearly exists a time limit.  The death screen is very clear, in that you died.  And death is inevitable.  Why would you or anyone else expect that you could continue your progress or their progress after your death?  How is it rude that you not be able to continue with such projects, if you got given a hint that you wouldn't be able to continue with such projects from the title of the game, and the always consistent part of the death screen which says 'YOU DIED'?

NoTruePunk wrote:

How would you even "fix" this? Keep wells and cisterns locked to a dead family? You'd just be further restricting players to fit your personal views on how the game should be played.

Fix the "problem" that players can't return to their old towns?  I'd tell them to read the game's title, and the death screen, and keep those in mind.  Maybe something like You Are Hope's screen where players can watch what happened with their town after their death, so that they can know/feel that they left a legacy.  And see how things progress, and what could be possible in another life with respect to crafting/technology/personal interaction.  But, *for the bs2 group game* some sort of method so that players would likely return to their previous town and continue on their previous project?  But how is returning to one's town consistent with the One Hour One Life concept?  And if such is inconsistent with the One Hour One Life concept, why would it be a problem?

Now, that concept isn't mine.  I've argued in favor of One Hour One Life *just* meaning that the maximum amount of time for one life is one hour before.

Lastly, and most importantly, that players rebuild from scratch is not some personal view of mine only, like it seem to portray it.  Again, the Steam page clearly talks about rebuilding from scratch.  In full, it says:

"A multiplayer survival game of parenting and civilization building. Get born to another player as your mother. Live an entire life in one hour. Have babies of your own in the form of other players. Leave a legacy for the next generation as you help to rebuild civilization from scratch. Updated weekly. "

https://store.steampowered.com/app/5956 … _One_Life/

See how it says, "rebuild civilization from scratch"?  I agree with those parts.  Some other people around here, like Eve Troll, do also.  And that's how the game has gotten advertised on Steam.

If the game's systems make it impossible for players to satisfy what is advertised there, it's simply not built right, and possibly it's falsely advertised.  If players consistently make it impossible for others to play the game as advertised, well the players making it impossible for players to rebuild from scratch in a group context are in the wrong, not those trying to play the game as advertised.

This topic is not true. I saw not long ago very old towns! The distance of bell town and others were like 3,5k. Real issue is that towns don't do anything with power they have. Towns just dies out without anything achieved THROUGH high tech / many resources. People can accumulate great wealth and don't do anything with it, like conquer others / defend themselves / build some huge construction.

Put plaster in plane.

You would need to get up a forge and a bowl each time you land in the wild also in order to fly back.  And the plaster, and stakes.

NoTruePunk wrote:

Spoon, you keep saying it's an issue we're not rebuilding from scratch, but I really don't think that's a problem. Not every player is going to be the eve that spawns in right after a map wipe. Some of us are actually going to play in that society that she gives birth to. Currently the game has a whole lot more of the first thing happening and a whole lot less of the second.

The game is a group game.  It's rebuilding from scratch in a group context.  So, for example if Eve makes a kiln and makes primary steel tools, and later on someone in the same family makes a kraut board, and someone else uses it, the kraut board *still* falls into rebuilding from scratch, even though it built on what the Eve and previous generations did.  So, in other words playing in the society that the Eve gave birth too can still involve rebuilding from scratch, since *the group as a whole* still rebuilds from scratch.

But, families like the Black Tears resettled a dead town.  Resettling dead towns, I note, leads to families getting more spread out, and since families resettle right, that leads to the "rat race" effect.  I've observed Gingers delivering tanks of kerosene and engines to towns.  I got born in Pickens family a few days ago with someone using a truck to haul materials around and he said that he keeps a truck around somewhere (he was also the leader).  We didn't even have a smithing hammer or much of a farm!  Engines get looted rather frequently from dead town locations, and that has been evident from forum reports for a while now.  None of that involves a family, nor the server as a whole, rebuilding from scratch.  And for those who want to rebuild from scratch in a group environment, they basically can't do so, since if someone else uses a looted engine for your family's pump, your family is no longer relying on resources that they earned from scratch.

NoTruePunk wrote:

JonySky wrote:

it is simple to understand!
You live 60 minutes ... if the resources are more than 30 minutes away, you will never be able to return with these resources to your city

Although the map is infinite ... your time is not

Airplanes

Those don't work without a landing pad.  If used, how did the landing pad get there?  Also, if there exist multiple landing pads, isn't directing one's landing an issue?  Additionally, it's basically one charge of kerosene for each use on an airplane.  And they have to get built first, of course.

NoTruePunk wrote:

Spoonwood wrote:

No.  Tarry spots break, and oil wells deplete.  The *local* supply of water may become more abundant than what anyone cares about at present.  But, it is not infinite.  Not on bigserver2.

When you first played, tarry spots didn't break though, if they existed at that time.  I mean, they didn't break in January of 2019 or December of 2019 (they didn't exist before then though... or at least oil rigs didn't).

You can check onetech on tarry spots and oil wells having a finite number of uses.

The map is infinite, so kero is infinite. It's just a logistical hurdle harvesting and hauling it.

it is simple to understand!
You live 60 minutes ... if the resources are more than 30 minutes away, you will never be able to return with these resources to your city

Although the map is infinite ... your time is not

NoTruePunk wrote:

Jason said no GUI. He's committed to that.

Where and when? Was it in some advertisement or promise when people bought the game?  Did he say that in some comment or post in the forums *with a date* on it?  If it's not in any advertisement, it's likely a statement made with some time indicator on it.  Temporally dependent statements, which is many of all possible statements, can and often enough change from true to false.  So, I don't see how him saying that, even *if* he did say such, would mean much.

It's also supposed to be an one hour game.  One would rationally expect engaging one's biggest parts of one's brain as much as possible and often as possible.  A pictorial based crafting guide is a lot closer to such expectations than text-based ones.

NoTruePunk wrote:

  The jump from a newcomen well to a diesel well unlocks infinite water ...

No.  Tarry spots break, and oil wells deplete.  The *local* supply of water may become more abundant than what anyone cares about at present.  But, it is not infinite.  Not on bigserver2.

When you first played, tarry spots didn't break though, if they existed at that time.  I mean, they didn't break in January of 2019 or December of 2019 (they didn't exist before then though... or at least oil rigs didn't).

You can check onetech on tarry spots and oil wells having a finite number of uses.

Before it was possible to travel to another family's site and then spend the rest of your time getting out resources of race restricted biomes *for* them.  It was also possible to not do so, and then head home similar to what this new system suggests as desireable.  There were more potentialities for travelers before.

This new system makes traveling as say a type with jungle access to a town where players have snow access rather useless for purposes of getting them more resources, since doing that will involve more running back and forth.  Players that use to gift to other families?  They get NOTHING from this change, and their play style gets rejected as meaningful.  Since "trading" has often been gifting, and such kills off, or is likely to decrease such gifting, it makes it more likely that fewer resource transfers happen.