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Making this system work for property fence access in some way sounds like an amazing idea, getting exiled would be very impactful indeed

So you feel the main thing missing is that people are too far apart? I agree that interaction is too difficult. An interesting approach that Salem took was having a safe city that you start in that you can't build anything in, can't fight in, can just buy and sell some things and trade with other players. Like ohol, there was no trading mechanic so it relied on trust, but unlike ohol, characters existed for a long time and grew reputations that meant people would trust them to not rip them off as they were putting things on the ground to trade.

Anyways, point is, you were able to magically teleport back and forth between your household and the one city to facilitate interaction with other players since encountering players in the wild was obscenely dangerous, so the city was sort of a Switzerland.

Obviously magical teleportation is nobody's favorite... It breaks immersion and circumvents interesting travel gameplay, but because you could only use it to go to and from your household and the city you still ended up having to do a lot of traveling, particularly initially when you're finding your place to settle.

I wonder what would happen if we could teleport to and from bell towers rather than just get pointers... A bell tower city would become a switzerland of sorts. It's a nice mechanic because it means you can keep your household location trivially secret while still interacting with people. I have a feeling Jason wouldn't go for it, but it would sure make the game more appealing to me since trade would suddenly be super viable. Also imagine how interesting the bell tower city would be, there would likely be people attempting to take control of it, and anyone controlling it would define the laws of city behavior

Fair enough, though even the changes he's implemented are pretty small potatoes, I don't see them edging it towards that kind of difficulty level until actual survival becomes difficult. For now it's just the nice-to-have bigger picture goals that are difficult, and big picture goals in a sandbox mmo are absolutely essential to be almost impossible because of it was in any way trivial then people all over the map would be doing it and it would lose meaning. Endgame stuff should be endgame, not everyone is supposed to reach endgame, in mmos very few should. The early and even midgame though takes only a few hours of playing and studying to more or less master as-is.

Also his weird aversion to doing anything with combat other than throwing it completely under the bus is not indicative of a desire for extreme difficulty.

This is why it's so easy and tempting to grief, there's no pressure to stay alive. Being in an established town, from a desire for challenge perspective, is boring. The only interesting thing to do aside from spam things for future people is to grief. Running out of water is like a saving grace from boredom, at least now the family will be on the run and have a baby or two picked off by bears rather than it just be a tepid non-memory of gathering clay and firewood or whatever banal task you get stuck with, if you're lucky enough for the town to be organized enough to have need for tasks so you don't have to spend half your life nagging at zombies about what they need more of.

I wish that when a foreigner showed up it was terrifying, as-is it's more of a zoned out non-response as one waits to see if the foreigner is going to chase you around idly, steal stuff you aren't particularly emotionally attached to anyways, or join in on endlessly fetching and combining things to permit future descendants to have an even easier and more boring time.

Maybe I should start doing ethical griefing, where I declare I'm going to attempt to end the family then give them a 10 minute grace period to prepare (as long as they don't simply surround the whole town with a single fence since that's a broken, undefeatable, uninteresting mechanic as-is). I think I'll do some experimenting with this and if I find something that works I'll post a guide on how to go about it in a (subjectively) gameplay improving way.

Yeah but making it a bit complicated and non obvious about how to switch servers and run your own server etc means more people sort of by default fall into participating on the main server which means there's less painful low pop situations. Maybe it's possible that having a single player option could keep them interested longer and ultimately play on the server more in the end but that doesn't seem to be a given.

Sounds like it's time for another vanilla purge *grips his knife tighter, drool pooling*

Please no. We need a more sophisticated combat system not a simpler one. It's not in line with reality at all to limit people to one kill, in reality it's more likely that most people have never killed but a few people have killed many (cops, military, etc). How about more ways to attack than simply immediately killing them, like some way to slow them down, some way to sap their hunger, some way to de-horse, some way to disarm, make it complex, interesting, and high skill curve and make it so that a group of people can meaningfully work together rather than just grouping up, chasing faster, and managing to get a kill in.

Property fences need to be breakable somehow also but that's another discussion

Nuanced perspective? That's not welcome on these forums GTFO

Joking aside, yeah it's a bit screwed up to let a handful of active players curse someone into nonexistence for a full month...

Would be more interesting and amusing if they were born with devil horns instead so mamas knew to abandon it for the good of the village, but maybe her sister would greedily want the meme score and feed it then the village would debate about which sister to seek justice in favor of, etc etc so on and so forth.

Or maybe you can see which players you've specifically cursed before, so you might be the only one that really knows they're a griefer and can't actually prove it to anyone else

+1, would love 5-10s second pregnancy. Mama could start talking to bb during that time if she chose also. Technically the pregnancy should be 45 seconds long to match 9 months but I guess that would be a bit boring for bb

The descent into the swarm didn't go so well, I got quickly tired of explaining things over and over just to have them run off when I slip away for just a moment to grab something. Good thing I don't care about my genetic score

10/10 would read again, pages flew by

I love this, it's like a passive form of griefing. Killing them with high standards rather than knives xD but yeah I'm one hundo p gonna give that strategy a go this very moment wew first time descending into the new swarm of locusts

Awww the other solution was so much more fun though...