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So if I'm ever ordered to slay a village I should pass the offer? Although wouldn't some people think that is griefing also?
If you slay a village on orders, you griefed the masses. If you disobey, you griefed your superior only. I guess it depends on how democratic you are. If someone ask me to murder a village for kicks I will pretend to obey and put an arrow in his back later, damn the consequence.
Or you could just tell him to go fight his fight himself.
No one will credit you, the town you saved won't even know you betrayed your superior to save them, you might even get cursed. But damn that. I follow my heart.
The one exception is if the village is in absolute iron crisis or some messed up shit like that. And the neighbouring town has buttloads. I would get someone or myself to ask nicely first, while we searched for iron, we will borrow a mound of iron.
If still no iron and no aid, I would rather send in thieves on horseback as second measure.
If that failed , Then I guess its them or us - I'm a pacifist but I do know, fight for survival is a thing.
Ah the age old question of individual vs society
F for Tarr
Seriously, he has a shrine in Stark Town. and it is SPOTLESS - with a bucket of what I presume to be holy water
Everyone in-game respects his shrine
Got to pay respect to such a legend,
wine yes I want alcohol it was invented well before diesel engines lol
Yes, this is OHOL right???
JASON WHERE IS OUR
alcOHOL
*runs away*
The one concern I have with this, is that it is fairly normal to die a bunch of times in a row through no fault of your own. Often times you start playing and die a few times to bad parents before you have a good start. I do think the number is high enough that it isn't going to be an issue for most people, though I could see a newbie who plays a lot possibly reaching it.
Personally I never had to retry more than 4 times before I find a decent family to live with. If you run into shitty families ten times in a row it's probably not your day to play OHOL. Perhaps it's time to go outside lol
RodneyC86 wrote:PS: I have never been called names before but I wouldn't resort to murders or griefing. Been called Gay before but no one in the village likes that punk anyway. I find 90 percent of players are very decent hardworking people
Well I didn't use to murder/grief. It started when someone told me if I wanted to get back at the person who called me those names to kill them. That was by my own in game mother at the time. I used to just ignore, but after having that happen every time I played and for 12 days strat I got mad and did that.
I just don't get why people are mean to others, it kind of shows that humanity will never be at peace, which is sad.
Thank you for being the one person here who was kind to me here. I'll actually do what you said and lay low for a bit instead of just fueling the fire. Hope I can just play normal without anyone being a jerk, and I'm sorry to hear how rude people were to you too.
Hope you have a great morning, day, night wherever you are. Thanks again!
I still haven't try to kick your ass though. Don't let me catch you lol
Valareos wrote:Babies in the oven?
Then we make baby pie
I'd rather put the annoying sick whistling baby into a crock , add some water. Put over hot coals.
Baby carrot soup
RodneyC86 wrote:No one ever said road to redemption is easy.
Should have really considered the conseuqences. Good luck whatever your decide.So I should just let people walk over me like the lady here does? Kind of dumb since people called me dumbass, noob, the r word, fag, etc... when I first started this game and was an actual nice player to begin with. That is what made me snap and do what I did. So you're saying I should forgive those people and stop? I don't know if I should since that would be easy for them.
People seem to praise youtubers for what they do, and yet a simple person who uses a game like this to make there life better get treated like dirt and get treated like it's there fault for trying to be nice after they do only one thing when they got mad
Why am I supposed to say sorry to this lady in this home every time I saw what she does to me? Am I supposed to thank or forgive her for hitting me? Guess getting hit is funny to people these days and trying to get people to like you is bad. I only attacked the Genier when another player, my mother in the game, told me to. I wonder why I should still listen to the other players since I get stuff like this happening to me for doing what I was told...
Next time I play and someone tells me to kill another I won't. I don't care if that person kills the entire village, it'll show that I am not doing anything bad, because you get killed for killing even if it's a good thing. So I don't care whatever happens!
Can't help you, dude. Can't say I ever fell into that moral pit yet. Maybe go under the radar a bit? Don't mention anything about your Genier story. It can sound like you were bragging about killing one of them and to a person who didn't know the full story it can sound like you were a full blown griefer
PS: I have seldom been called names before but I wouldn't resort to murders or griefing. Been called Gay before but no one in the village likes that punk anyway. I find 90 percent of players are very decent hardworking people
Well I've found out something. People don't care if you try to make up for your past or your mistakes!
I was in a village and someone asked if I knew how to use a sword. So, I told them yes because I was the one who took out the Genier. Next thing I knew I got killed with a bow and cursed by everyone. Told a mom the next life and got abandoned and starved. Told an older sibling and got stabbed. Told a baby I had and they came and stabbed when older, etc...
I'm starting to think I shouldn't regret what I've done anymore. I felt bad earlier, but since people can't let you grow from mistakes or learn from your past why should I bother?
I'm gonna do more of it now than I used to! I don't care what anyone thinks. I get beat in this group home I live in if I don't say the lady is nice or good to her boss, so why should I care what feelings anyone has in a game? If I tell the boss anything bad the lady did then all I get is told that she is doing her job and I am making it up...
That's why I do what I do in the game, I try to make myself happy by doing that. I tried being nice at least 13 times and that's all I've gotten from it. Nobody cares about nice things you do, they only remember the bad!
I give up on trying to be a nice player to others anymore. If this is what I get for telling people that I'm trying to make up for my past then I don't want it... People expect you to be nice to others, but when you had enough of someone being mean to you, they don't listen. So I'm done trying to be a good person in this game. I will become the bad guy instead!
No one ever said road to redemption is easy.
Should have really considered the conseuqences. Good luck whatever your decide.
RodneyC86 wrote:But we will kick your ass if you try. Do you really want to play this game trying to kick ass and get ass kicked?
Would like to see you try. You sound like you beat women and children in real life. Are you putting on a mask here to act tough?
How does that even make any sense? I have no need to put on a mask here.
jasonrohrer wrote:Also, Donkey Town may be removed this week, but I need to think about it.
FYI, one of the game's biggest all-time griefers currently has 0 lives.
I thought you liked griefers? Did you not say it's a job? Drama? Why nerf it if you want it?
It's not a job, it's a side effect. I'll say it again, griefing will happen regardless of making it official , and no amount of countermeasures will remove it, they will find a way to grief.
We don't need an endorsement to grief. I only hope Jason has seen the light.
This is messed up. How did your brain tick then you started this game and your group
This game is first and foremost about being in a community working for survival. Most players play this with this in mind. Why do you feel the need to be the one standing in the way?
I guess one could say you just want to play the villain, but expect to be hated, you can't expect people here to support what you are doing. No one asks for a griefing from you to add to the fun. Maybe it's fine if someone asks you to grief then (it's a weird fetish, in real world, there are actually paid kidnapping services to give you the rush of being in danger, you paid to get kidnapped sometime in the future, you won't know when or how)
Most people here will just bash you now.
I have a take on this. A good person will be a good person behind the screen, a bad person will be a bad person behind the screen - especially if you're not a kid anymore . Yes, I believe an individual's online behaviour behind anonymity reflects their true morals. You can argue it's fine if you behave alright in real life but really, everyone wears a mask in real life - your online behaviour is your true self unmasked.
TBH, I really don't care whether you want to continue griefing or not. That's something you ask yourself.
But we will kick your ass if you try. Do you really want to play this game trying to kick ass and get ass kicked? Aren't there actual better games for this goal? Try the numerous FPS or battle royales
I think it'd go something like this
https://youtu.be/17euo2DzBZI
Why are you like this?
OHOL is a VR game?
?
DestinyCall wrote:For long shafts and stone blocks, you can only fit four in a cart or one at a time
Need to correct: put two shafts to stack, put two curved to stack (for kindling in forge), makes one item. So you can bring eight kindling-mats and eight long shafts in one run (in handcart with no rubber wheels).
Niiiice thanks for the tip
Thinking back, I guess it should have been obvious that the whole point is that the parents teach kids to be useful members of society. Still this doesn't explain why a smithing area is made but no farming area
DestinyCall wrote:FeignedSanity wrote:What if you don't want that area to be farmland anymore?
You can dig out a hardened row using a shovel, so if you ever want to clear some farmland quickly, you don't need to plant milkweed. Just FYI - took me forever to realize that.
Wow, so you can! Thanks for sharing. It's amazing how many little things there are in this game like that. I guess I never saw it because I was focusing on tilled rows and kind of left hardened rows out of mind. Kind of funny considering I specifically said "cleaning hardened rows", which isn't what I meant to say.
This is like the time someone showed me that you can plant wheat seeds straight from a bowl of wheat. Mind blown lol.
Holy shit wtf you can plant them from a bowl of wheat. Damn
So I went out, to get a wheat head, killed by mosquitoes (I know, I have periodic Noob syndrome) for nothing??????
How pleasing
Why can't everyone do this instead of stirring up drama and stabbing each other in advanced towns? Oh well, I guess some people are regular drama queen/kings
Me? I'm obsessed with massive amounts of anything stacked up neatly. I hope to make 4 crates of 24 clay bows each someday, even if I have to make a mini kiln outpost someday
InSpace wrote:I played a life, and it was so different, no /die babies, everyone doing hard work, no skeletons in town, it was great
NO SKELETONS IN TOWN?! Damn that's nice to hear
It's WAAAAAAAAYYYYY less now, and less clutter actually encourage players to start projects since there's more room for actual work.
Think I only saw one /die happen. And i did not see a single griefer through a full life. This has not happened in a while
*lived a life in Mino family twin town* there was rudimentary trade going on I think between the two towns
Can these lives be made server specific though? Just a thought
Wow, this could change a lot of things. I was one of the players thinking the real issue was always life being too cheap.
I think this won't change how most normal players play. I have never went through more than 10 lives in an entire game session of 3 hours.
There could be a bad mom grief to deliberately waste loves but I hope villages have enough nursemaids to deal with that
RodneyC86 wrote:Perhaps a little section in tutorial that explain what one should typically learn first to be useful citizen - tutorial doesn't even include teaching farming! Why does it have an area to experiment with smithing? Isn't that like doing step 10 before doing step 3?
This is OHOL, not You Are Hope. At least, from what Tarr told me on the discord the other day, YAH has a little extra section you can learn more about multiple jobs in the tutorial. I think Tarr said it's optional, and I don't quite recall what it covers, but it sounded more extensive than the OHOL tutorial area. But hey, neither you, Tarr, the designers of YAH, or myself have 15+ years of game designing experience, so how could us saying something like this be useful? Oh... because maybe we started playing the game more recently than 3+ years ago when the game was just code without artwork... that's why.
Honestly , the 15 year old shit is getting old. Get over it. I decide to still keep posting suggestions by now. We have already filled entire boards with that so meh, it should be a dead meme by now.
My impression is that if you prepare the tools and materials, things usually gets done. So I'm not sure if I would call people lazy, since they seem to be happy to work if they get a little guidance.
Maybe it's just that there's so much to do, so it's easy to get sidetracked.
I think it's just a massive flood of choices. I don't know what to do because I can't choose from 30 different things to do.
Do you know, at least when it comes to flavors of jams, that consumers are actually MUCH less happy with their purchase if the whole line consists of many different flavors rather than just a few? Three seems to be optimal balance between having a choice and too many choices
Perhaps a little section in tutorial that explain what one should typically learn first to be useful citizen - tutorial doesn't even include teaching farming! Why does it have an area to experiment with smithing? Isn't that like doing step 10 before doing step 3?
Rant over
I highly doubt anyone 'enjoys' it.
I have probably killed one maaybe two. The one I vividly remember was against the person who killed my mom just because she moved the shovel wrong when I was 3 years old. Sorry, I got to put these petty behaviour down. True I don't know the whole story, but if she raised me till I can walk and eat I don't think she is THAT bad
RodneyC86 wrote:TofuInjection wrote:Its a videogame first and foremost. It will always be one. You can't expect it to be anything close to a simulation of real life.
The interesting part of the project, to me at least, is the goals that people create for themselves and the sense of working together to create a lasting thing, even while knowing you will fail. Some players agree with me and we have a good hour. Others don't. Shit happens.
Yeah, I posted this because I think some of us ( including yours truly) tend to fall into the trap of trying to make an idea in relation to reality. Jason looks to be edging close to that with some thinking he has already fallen into it. So that's why I make this post.
It is a concern to me as well. Some of the recent updates seem heavily influenced on making OHOL a sort of "life/civilization simulator". But it isn't. It's a game. It's (at least to my mind) meant to be a cooperative game. I'd much rather see updates that build on that foundation.
Yeah man, like a much larger tech tree that goes vertical.
Jason showcased a killer robot in his trailer. At the rate we are putzing around with these controversial social experiments we will never get there