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i suggested in the caring thread Eve naming town + an option for a group of town's residents naming town as well if the player who was the original Eve renounces the town's name
if from that naming token, from the marker a radius would span, then this would determine where the town is & where no more
that way in between towns there would be noman's land, this is the area where wars could happen if towns grow & spread

wars are not possible if there are no real towns, with a designated area & an actual name
what we have now is roleplay towns, someone came up with some name & made a sign, nobody really cares for that, maybe the initial maker but not anybody else

i agree with the hat idea, though it doesn't need to be an actual hat

but i would rather prefer that hat to be bound only to the naming Eve or if she renounces the naming, then the naming group of residents

we need in game something more social, a cooperating group of those who work & care, those people have to become more empowered
though i wouldn't give the Eve the power to give her hat away
i really would prefer to have it bound to those responsible for the naming only, either Eve or that group of people, only those would be the elders

i have no idea how this would actually play out, but we need a change in game, atm the gameplay is stagnant & cooperation is a huge exception among mainly egotistic endevours without consideration of the greater good or communicated agreement

btw we have already some sort of empowered elders in game, it comes from the knives carried in backpack, those empower to some actions & it works rather well, if people care to participate that way & act responsible
at some point every player gets it, most remain peaceful, some decide to grief, so the usual social occurance

so maybe instead of a hat, an Eve should be born with an adorned knife, the founder's knife
or she could be only empowered to smith it later in game herself

she could decide either to take it with her when she dies, then nobody else would have its benefits
or she could decide to bequeath it to a resident of her choosing

i am not sure how the multiplication of that knife would work out or if a singular founder's knife would work better

but i would actually prefer it to be a knife, which would be used in the same way for practical work as the usual knives

& though the magic is tempting, i agree with BlueDiamondAvatar, i'd prefer better buildings, better materials, more diverse materials, storage options, better reasons to build houses
maybe a slightly easier building options with the founder's knife, no overkill magic, don't know ...

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so ok, i came up with a game changing idea surrounding caring

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a life of an Eve has to matter
atm it is as unimportant as every female life

a life as an Eve has to matter to the player being an Eve
& a life of every Eve has to matter to every player
if those goals are not met then nothing will help
because only an Eve can start a family ***

how can a life as an Eve matter to the player being an Eve ?

new idea : A TOWN's NAME

the options to live for every player :
* an Eve
* a town's name
* a family name
* consequent lives

round 1 :
-an Eve should be the only one who names a town, a place with a special marker
-the town's name is solidified to stay only if its founding Eve survived to 60, otherwise it is wiped clean
-players born to an Eve with a named town are only those who have already named a town successfully themselves
* this will be the quality of players initiation test *
-every player has at first to have a successful solo run as childless Eve, without any descendants & live till 60 to be able to found a town at all
-after a player manages that life, the town founded stays as a place on the map, it has to have an Eve's marker, a special marker recognizable as an Eve's town
-every player is able to have only one town named at the same time, either that town stays & the founding player can be born to another player that way or they have to found a town successfully first
-this will make every player trully care for what the player is playing
-it will punish every player who hasn't been able to live to 60 while naming a town with a childless rebirth as Eve, over & over again
-being a founding Eve will be the initial test to be able to play something else than that, the Eve's initiation
-players born to an Eve with a named town, who has passed that initiation test are only those who themselves have already named a town successfully, who have themselves passed that test as well
-this will make every such player care for that very spot, for that very town, because named themselves & it will probably inspire some real drama subsequently later on, if a player who was a founding Eve reveals themselves as living there again
(months ago i had the fortune to live very few lives in that sense, those were very memorable but the occurance was random at that time, didn't really belong to any certain gameplay
i am also meeting players in game still, who care for the founding Eve, so that initiation thing is real gameplay content already now
with my ideas here it would include way more commitment of the players than we have now
i am not sure how it will change the griefing situation, but it probably will significantly, since a player can choose to not participate in building a town founded by some other player but disrupt its thriving instead, but there will be one additional positive option to mitigate that in round 3)

round 2 :
-the first life after passing the initiation test is to be born to that exact spot of the own town as Eve again but now with the option to have kids
-as is now already, only an Eve can found a family & give that family a name
-that family name depends on successful life of other players carrying on with the name, as it is already now
-after that second life as Eve, every such player is born either to another such player as Eve's child, as females child or again as Eve, able to found another family
-so - per Eve only one town, but many families possible
-that way every such player can be born only to an existing town
-after that second Eve's life the following lives will be as they are now, randomly born as whatever & whereever

round 3 :
-a player who named a town as Eve, if born to that exact spot, to that town again, has the option to remove that town's name
-that town becomes available to be named new
-the player themselves will be born after that life into a fresh spot as Eve & will be able to beginn the cycle with round 1 again
-the nameless town can be named again only if several residents agree, make it at least 6 maybe
-this will make players who named a town that way care for that very spot, for that very town !!!
this time around it will be more than only one player, it will be already a group of players
-a town named that communal way will have a different marker than the marker a town gets if named by an Eve

round 4 :
-an apocalypse can still wipe ALL town's names clean on a server
-an apocalypse will get that way some real drama input, i am hoping for really mean players, who orchestrate now an apocalypse which removes lots of effort of other players & which in return will motivate players, who don't want to have their town's names removed actually FIGHT against

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i was yesterday an Eve, i tried but i am pretty tired meantime with the meaningless effort to be an Eve  AT ALL
an Eve's life is hard & what's the reward ? the family's name will be wiped out probably by some noob players who are randomly born as the only female or by some players who grief for kicks or cause they are disorientated what this game is about at all or just because they have half an hour before their lunch to cause trouble
i was born in a thankless spot, more wolves, boars & bear caves after running aimlessly for 20 minutes than berry bushes or banana trees
i had 4 kids, maybe one survived, the son, as always, but so what ? who cares ? not even i do & i was the founding Eve

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thoughts ?

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pein, that's what i'm saying
using zoom you are in advantage, that's why you use it
you can call it "soft" & "convenient", the bottom line is, if it wouldn't benefit you, then you wouldn't use it
if i remain vanilla, then i know that i am at a disadvantage, my OHOL life is less "soft" & less "convenient"

also, for me, in vanilla, finding an iron vein is a big event, for a zoom out player it's only a shrug of "so what, i knew that already"

the things with the fertile female in lineage is for me personally of no interest, so not really missing on that
i don't suicide because i am the last remaining male or too old female to have kids, many players i play in such scenarios do
i don't play like that, i play for the greater good, i do things not because the lineage is still going, but because things need better function & everywhere things are improvable

for once not a story where a griefer was involved, not a living one

i had today also something related
not directly "an amazing adventure" but it was interesting enough to tell
& it hasn't griefers included either

was born male to an Eve, had already a baby bro
there was another Eve
they say "Let's go"
i wondered, since we were already in a town which seemed to be dead
then one of the Eve's tried to put a cart on a horse
i said sad-dle, after the third time they realised
so my mum with a backpack grabbed me & ran north
& we ran & ran & ran & ran
i started severly to wonder what the point was
the other Eve with the horse went missing
while my bro with a backpack & clothed was still somewhere around
then my mum dropped dead, yeah, was to expect
after i put on my mums clothes & backpack, we went back to town

the town was indeed dead, several fresh corpses, probably there was no young females & they were just old
my bro didn't want to stay, so he suicided
i, on the other hand, saw the opportunity to fix the berry farm & expand the road further which the previous people have started
plenty of food around for one lone man & nobody disturbing while i dug up the bushes

made then there two centers on that road
whoever finds that town again can continue
died at 60

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the first time i've got murdered was by bow & arrow, i've been murdered with bow & arrow by my own son i've wasted my time with nurturing him,
& all those countless guards with bow & arrow bored guarding & going on a killing spree
killers don't need a knife, just an intention or pretext to kill, bow & arrow is as good to kill as knife is

& i still don't propose killing in revenge or as a measure to "deal with griefers"
i've been also to countless towns where bystanders or some kid eating pies or some elder got "dealt with" just because
"killing a griefer" is probably quite a genius griefer idea to kill without people getting suspicious
cause not everybody is as observant as i am

prevention is the best option,
reduce knives in town if there are actually too many, means more than about 3,
put bow & arrows visible to all middle in town center, prepare hospital
make backpacks, give knives to responsibly working folks, so they learn to hand down their knives to the next generation of responsibly working folks
this makes the town safe, proven again & again

i would prefer more prevention options but well, it is only as Jason gives it

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i am not against more food
but civilization should be really more than a food simulator

there are so many areas missing in OHOL, so why more food food food ?
it's boring, because it's the same in new clothes

sorry Jason, but i don't like it

so far the only announced new stuff that's really useful are those spring doors, is a pain in butt to use doors now
i just wonder if we can add such spring doors to a sheep pen & if sheep get through it as well or not,
cause open gates in a sheep pen is a popular griefing method

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you have to see the bigger picture than just early farming

it's better to use the soil to set up a milkweed farm asap instead to set up a skewer farm
ropes are used constantly for the most vital stuff throughout the whole tech tree, better starting with it already in an Eve's camp

& why would you want to have a "no iron town" ?

that's why i often bring a bunch of new stones to the settlement/town, cause those present are mostly used for wells or just disappear magically

i am all for storage options, storage options & stackable everything
with what we have is organization atm hard to achieve, actually not at all

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brutalism, lolz

but i really wonder, why there are those giant corners at all,
why does a horizontal wall not just align with a vertical to a nice slim corner ?
maybe Jason needs some iron as well

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oh, i will be forging now more, love it !!!

i know exactly that phenomenon also
same with compost, forging, making kindling, even omeletts, watering carrots, harvesting carrots

the only crafting which seems resistant to "sudden helpers" is making pottery
rather the opposite, as soon i start making space in a forge for some new bowls & plates, someone decides, that it's time again to forge

what i would like is a job assignment blackboard, where all the jobs available are listed
if some craftsperson is soon about to die, they can announce an urgent job assignment on that blackboard

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here is a secret for you

cooked mutton & cooked rabbits are also not stackable

you only suggest to waste my in game time with doing something i don't want
it has absolutely nothing to do with any sort of a solution to the scattered meat problem
you are being ignorant & outright silly

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