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i don't agree

there surely isn't "the" ideal layout but things work in OHOL in a certain way & therefore some layouts work while other don't

if people mess with a place but the main layout is practical, then it will be cleaned up again
if people mess with a bad layout, then there is a reason, it doesn't work for them
just because a group of people, maybe even discord coordinated thought out their perfect layout doesn't mean it actually was

when i ask about an ideal or perfect layout, i ask for practical, hands on experiences people made in game, that's the best you can get, because grown in the lives they lived
the life is short in OHOL, you have to function & don't waste your precious time with any mess & atm, nearly all towns are a mess regarding functionality

if there is an ideal layout, doesn't mean that every town will look the same, but some things work in certain way in OHOL & that defines the problems & their solutions

& i asked for some thoughts, such as was mentioned, like

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those are useful & very practical ideas, which will probably prove themselves in game over & over again as belonging to the ideal layout
i know that because i am thinking about that layout for months now & was collecting ideas in all the runs i've been playing & paying attention to how workspaces built certain way were working in game & which didn't & why

i wrote that already several times but i encountered once a town which had a main crossroads through the town, north-south & east-west, as far i recall both were quite straight lines
this was the best town layout i ever experienced, because one could orientate oneself easily & get from one part of the town to another very fast,
even if you were not on that road, you knew it was there & you could go back to it to get to the other side of the town fast if you needed

if i ever build my perfect layout, it will have such a crossroads, that's for sure

i also know some no-nos, because i experienced their negative effects in game, like
road next to any workplace, wall directly above or one tile above an oven/kiln, boxes instead of chests next to a workplace, bakeries & nurseries with solid wood doors, giant berry farms with no free spaces among them ...

i have few ideas on my own, also collected, like

* a tree farm, but i don't know what the best layout could be for that,
also it's hard to plant trees, cause the next gen has to have the foresight to water them

* nursery not intereferring with neither bakery nor forge

i've seen some mango tree farms in game, but those have their own problems, need plates & a knife to slice them, very few people know how to handle them or that mango trees produce eadibles at all, so what to do with that ?

i've spawned the last couple of days to two towns which had a sheep pen attached to a bakery, i think this is a genious idea,
but that idea is atm in a larvae state
the one town had blocked the sheep entering the bakery with railroads, which are very hard to make & it didn't have an elegant passage between them two
the other town, with a door to the sheep pen run into the problem, the sheep escaping into the bakery
so that basic idea, which is great, needs some more work to ripe to be functioning well

i have many question about a town's layout, like
how to place the main roads in relation to the ponds ?
where to place the forge, where the bakery, where the pottery ?
how many kilns in a forge ?
where to place the chests belonging to a forge/bakery/pottery
does a newcomen pump need an own kiln ? or is to head for the kerosine pump a better idea ? if so, how fast should it happen ? & if so, how to connect it in an elegant way to a kerosine source, how to design that one ?
if newcomen pump, then where to store water ?
should a town have a main fire in the middle or not ?
where to place the hospital ?
where to store wood & kindling ?
...

& also important to be mentioned
players using the zoom mod have a totally different gameplay experience than vanilla players
i play vanilla, a mess of a town is playing vanilla ten times harder than with the zoom mod, i am in fact losing in game decades of my lives just searching for a round stone or a sharp stone or a basket or a home marker or if there is a milkweed farm or if there are trees nearby or if there are enough plates or if there is a rabbit furs place or if there are enough carrots growing & so on ...

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as far i understand OHOL, is that you are a small part of a whole community, this is the experience

though you will meet people in game that become in that short life span, one hour, few minutes, dear enough that you could cry for real when they die
the game is emotionally moving, not every life, many lives are not only meaningless but outright annoying with annoying people around you, but you still will live through lives which will become significant to you & where you will become significant to the others

i think meantime, it would skew the experience of the lives if you knew who you are playing with
skew in a positive & a negative way, you would settle for old friends & old enemies, without such a knowledge, everybody has another chance either to become constructive after a series of lives being obnoxious or to become a villain after a series of lives of a saint

that's the pure OHOL experience
if you twin, you miss out on that
to twin is a second rate OHOL gameplay imo

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i don't play to collect yum
i play to collect goods for the village

collecting yum-bonus is THE MOST BORING GAME EVER, well, ok, i exaggerate, but it is really a boring game to play

the solution is simple to what bugs you

born into a town head asap for the sheep, if there are only few, feed the young, so they can multiply
then you don't need to worry that much about the last sheep being shorn

& about other players being unreasonable
two solutions depending on what you prefer :

A) you kill them
B) you ignore them

with time they will either learn or stop playing

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cows are helpful, yes, but !!! have you seen those giant dead bisons in a sheep pen !!!
taking up two spaces FOREVER !!!

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there are some problems with roads

a road next to any workplace is absolutely ANNOYING, no matter if a berry farm or a bakery
a road should NEVER lead directly along any workplace !

roads have to have usefull stop gaps, near any workplace
i've seen one useless stop gap, it was a landing pad for a plane

other than that, roads are great
i wish i had enough time to build them, usually i am too busy with other stuff, especially as female
& i still don't know what a perfect town layout would be, so even if i'd be building roads, i wouldn't build them in a sensible manner

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so that was you who left me naked while equiping another kid with backpack & whatnot

no, really
that's not a good idea
cause you never know which kid will die soon cause not even able to survive next to a berry farm
& which will have to search a long time naked for a basket just to get something done while they could be meanwhile hunt rabbits

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this question is useless

i ask it very rarely, to clarify, but usually it's evident
i teach on the fly, just in case, if the player is not new they can say it then, if they are then they can learn right away

it's also pretty quick evident if the mom is a new player or not
i'd say, moms asking me that question are quite new

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that's why i am constantly hunting rabbits now, life after life
& if i can get hands on seals, that's a jackpot for everybody
clothing is underrated still, the hunger goes rapidly down if fully clothed
& i am very happy to see now many running with shoes also, i always missed to see shoes before the temp update, it felt like a waste,
now not anymore
both shoes lower the hunger by 17%

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i though always the wolf hat is more decorative
i am rather into the practical things first
so it's great, that both sides meet

in the end i wish we had more clothing options
more furs, leather, clothing that alleviates the heat from deserts & jungles also
we all know, full fur clothing in a desert or jungle would be deadly IRL, not insulating

some numbers

Wolf Hat                 22.5%
Sealskin Coat          31.5%
Rabbit Fur Loincloth 17%
2 Rabbit Fur Shoes  17%
backpack                  5%
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insulation                93%

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edited to add backpack insulation
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thank you for the clarification what the meta goal of the game is
meets my way to play it

i played for some time the game The Trail
in the beginning it's lot of fun if you're into traveling around, crafting, trading & skilling up
it's nearly a nomad's life & there is some multiplayer in it
but then the next thing is to settle in town, the things crumbled from there for that game
it was neither fun nor made it any sense anymore
but the worst part was, i was unable to go back to the traveling mode, the game is as well designed with the goal to settle for good

but i prefer to travel, to wander around
if OHOL ever gets to a state with trade, music & painting, then i will be a traveling trader playing an instrument & painting on the go
that will be my finest sort of life

the goal could be to trade, to be a flying trader, wandering between different settlements, trading different goods
& to entertain oc, as IRL

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