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Looks good.  Just one nitpick: cursing only works on people from your lineage - so we can have legitimate warfare with war atrocities and all (I know towns are too far apart now, but it'll change someday).

Being born next to the bloody corpse with people screaming "Who is the killer".

Just give us some time Jason.  We need to parse this stuff into something usefull, etc. and we are not working full time on OHOL

That's why I'm advocating some kind of exponential effect in the system.  We only want to drive away repeated offenders, not harm players that do some stupid random shit once in a time.  With low penalty plus exponential in place people can deal harsher and harsher punishments until griefing is curbed to managable level.  It should self balance around some equilibrium.  If griefing is rare, I won't feel like spending my time to curse somebody.  If griefing is rampant and I encounter it almost every game, I'll take time to curse griefers, so I can have some nice games later today or tomorrow.

I think you have your assumptions wrong.  You base frequency of your curses on current level of griefing.  But with curse system in place it won't be that common.  The whole goal is not to "punish" grieferes, just to deter them.

Ideally, from griefers POV is should look like this:  I messed with a lot of people, they've cursed me, I find it really hard to grief for an hour.  Once curse wears off I can start griefing again, but I'm on probation.  So this time if I grief and people curse me, it will last for a day.  If tomorrow I start griefing again, curse will last for a week, etc.

So being griefed by dedicated griefer should be rare occurence.  And for fixed price of 5-10 minutes of your time, you can deal larger and larger penalty, depending on how "bad" griefier you stumbled upon is.  That may not help that particular town, but will definitely help the whole civilization - your next town has higher chance to be griefer free.

You won't elimintate griefing completely from the game.  Anybody still can do stupid crazy shit once in a blue moon.  But this just adds spice to the game experience.  I only care about stopping people that currently grief all day long, every day.  So maybe people on probation should be marked as such.  You will be more inclined to spend time to curse them.  OTOH it's opens another avenue for abuse, so maybe not.  If somebody is being PITA to lot of people, he'll eventually stumble upon someone willing to spend time to curse him.

If you have better idea how to stop cursing people over petty stuff than making it cost some time, please let us know.

Let's make weight of the curse depend on your own karma.  The more it's tarnished, the less people care about your opinion.  If you're below threshold, your opinion doesn't matter at all.

That's why I want for "punishment" to by very light/short, but exponential for repeated offenders.  So you cannot abuse it like that (unless you have a way to stalk somebody across lives - but I'm not aware of any method to do it right now).

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Bless to undo your curse or somebody's other.  Rate limited and used only to cancel curse during lifetime - no way to stack it upfront.

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Either that or curse should affect them much less in first X hours of playing.

Free doesn't matter here.  It should be possible to become good again, period.  We don't want to end up with bunch of players that have no way to get back to society.

It may be automatic - after all IRL people forgets/forgives misdeeds of others over the time.  Way around multiple account may be to make it exponential.  E.g. curse lasts for an hour with 1 day probation time.  If you are cursed again during probation, it lasts for few hours with few days of probation, etc.

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I think it may also be a good way rate limit it and avoid using it over petty stuff.  It may start with some text (you have to choose who you are cursing), but then some kind of ritual needs to be performed (think: staking vampire through the heart).  Ritual should take like 5-10 minutes in game time, so you really need to hate somebody to waste that much time. It should not require some advanced tools, so you have a way to perfom it, if you have to flee the town.

There is serious flaw it that.  Getting over 100 points is basically death sentence with no way to recover.  If one person will on average kill such kid 90% of time, having just three people around raises this probability to 99.9% (with independent random decisions prob. of survival is 0.1^3=0.001=0.1%).  Getting full hour lived will be almost impossible.  Even as an Eve, doing nothing wrong, you can be cursed by your kid to just reinforce curse.

I think that blessing is necessary for non obvious cases.  If somebody is cursing pein for making sheep pen out of graves, I want to be able to bless him, to undo the curse.  But blessing shouldn't be used as general way to move karma, i.e. you shouldn't be able to buff your karma doing good deeds over multiple lifetimes just to go on free killing spree.  Bless should be used only to cancel one curse done by somebody else in current lifetime.

Or even higher.  Being able to curse once per hour "for free" is way to frequent - it will be used for petty stuff.  I would aim for once per day.

And don't nerf legitmate warfare plz.  If somebody is raiding other town, horrible things can happen and everything should be allowed IMO.  So you should be able to curse/bless only people in your own lineage.

Only last old-age Eve, or all previous?  Cause I sometimes spawn in the middle of town ruins and I don't think that's the town that I've founded in the past.  Definitely not in recent past.  There is usually also locked building filled with gear and food prepared by griefers (to simplify next killing spree).  Maybe bell attracts Eve spawns?

Going fine.  I've played two-three games in a week.  With some slightly better protection against griefers I'll be definitely playing more.  Maybe I'll recommend it to few friends.  Game is still amazing, but griefers are too PITA to honestly recommend it ATM.

First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win.
-- Mahatma Gandhi