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I find this kind of topics funny.  There are always bunch of people defending the right of toxic players to piss off majority of players.

So what really happens?  Somebody wants to piss off people.  IRL if he starts doing it, sooner than later somebody's fist will meet his teeth and that may convince him it's bad idea.  But there is OHOL.  He can piss off people all day long and there aren't any consequences whatsoever.  So he does it day after day.  Ten players are unfortunate enough to run into him repetedly over several days.  They wanted to have fun, but they are pissed off every day.  They think: I love this game, but I constantly run into some asshole.  It's not fun.  What can I do?  The only option seems to be to stop playing.  So they quit.

How does it affect toxic player?  He still can piss off other players, so nothing changed for him at all.

How does is affect rest of the players?  There are relatively more toxic players now, so there is higher chance that they will run into one repeatedly.

Rinse and repeat enough times and you'll notice player base dwindling.

End game is when most players that are left are toxic.  But then even they decide that the game sucks - nobody is offended anymore.  And they quit too.

So, if you want this game to be killed, please support the right of toxic players to piss off people.  I really can't come up with more effective way to do that.

The only thing players can do right now to not run into this kind of people is to not play the game at all.  And it looks like Jason, by being completely passive about this topic, is fine with that solution.

Are you sure?  Jason told that he fixed it long time ago.  If you still can't hit murderer when he runs please reopen this bug:
https://onehouronelife.com/forums/viewtopic.php?id=2142

Oh, I'm sorry if you read this as complaint about your work.  That wasn't my intention at all.  I really appreciate it.  I just asked whether you need some help.  I see a lot of spam, but I'm in Europe - it's middle of the night or dawn in US then.  Maybe some help from people in different timezones would help.

Thanks, that explains a lot.  It's probably good idea to put it somewhere on the wiki, so people can know how they work.

To each his own.  But if he wrote it from Germany, it's very close to something that can put him in jail:
https://www.humanityinaction.org/knowle … in-germany
"First, we examine the “Auschwitz lie law,” which forbids the public denial of the Holocaust, and is an offence punishable by incarceration."

What happens if somebody else removes your marker and then you hear the bell?  Or you hear the bell with active marker and then somebody removes your marker?

Same question about outpost markers.  Is it safe to use them if in the meantime somebody else removes you original home marker? Or what happens when somebody removes your outpost marker, how do you clear it then, to see first home marker?

I know that those are corner cases, but it's not described anywhere and people don't know how markers work.  They are afraid to cut someone's else marker, so you often see many of them planted.

That's not fair comparison. Forming aliances if all people are anonimous and you last only an hour is hard and griefers don't need to form any aliances to be succesful.  And in Eve Online you need to put something at risk if you want to grief.  If people retaliate, you don't respawn with perfect fleet to instantly grief again.  And there are plenty of mechanisms to curb griefing: sectors where you cannot grief new players, hisec sectors where your options of PvP are very limited, if you decide to flee you don't need to leave all your stuff and start completely from scratch, if somebody follows you repeatedly you can report harrasment and he can get punished and I don't think that somebody "roleplaying a pedo" in Eve would keep his account active for long.

Eve's version of OHOL griefing would look something like: griefer is spawned near you, uses your money to build his fleet, attacks you screaming "DIE NIG*** BUHAHAHA", and if you decide to flee he is helpfully respawned at your new location to repeat the process until you leave game for good. If you try to petition Eve to do something, you get the answer that it's encouraged, legit gameplay. What's the fuss?

I disagree.  One side is clearly right other side is cleary wrong.  One side is trying to have fun themselves and with the others, other side is just trying to spoil the fun for as many players as possible.  Griefers need non-griefers to play the game, non-griefers don't need griefers around to play the game.  That's why when any system is proposed that will let griefers play only among themselves, they get so whiny on the forum, that it looks like they are the majority of the players.  When you suggest that they will still be able to play the game with other griefers, they compare it to being sent to hell.  Really?  You said that's so much fun.

Game clearly prefers griefers.  It tries to be survival game at same time, and because of that it gives very OP tools to use by them.  How otherwise could you explain the fact that one griefer can wreck and make totally unhabitable whole town built over several generations and with dozen of people in it?  Can some random just spawned player in Eve destroy in couple of minutes long lasting alliance with dozen of people in it?

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Some karma system that ensures, that if they want to grief you they must to do so from the outside and work their ass off to prepare.  And some things should just get you account banned.

Looks like somebody's following griefing guide.  Unfortunately I see no real defense to that, except for banning griefers from early camps.

How?

Can't be that small.  I've seen in replay information about players from different lineage 37000 tiles away.

You lose arrow if you cut your own marker, but not when somebody else does it.  Actually if your kid is born away from the marker, it's good idea for him/her to cut your marker and replant it as his own.  I'm not sure what happens when bell rings later on, though.  Somebody said that your arrow changes to point to the bell.  If so, that's a bug IMO, but I haven't seen it in practice.

Argumentum ad personam? Didn't expect that from you.