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Spoonwood wrote:

JasonY wrote:

Be too easy if you could just do everything yourself.

But you can... or at least some of us can.  Just go on a server which isn't usually all that populated and Eve chain.

Yeah, that's why I said too easy. If even a noob like you can do it.

If you still think the games easy, go play on big server.

No lineages will die out due to an update this week.

Legs wrote:

Players are usually much better at a game than the devs are. It's a different skill set. The dev builds the world but doesn't inhabit it. I wonder how many engines jason has built in-game. At the same time, he's written thousands of lines of code.

Devs focus on abstraction while players are practical and creative. That's where the potential to grief comes from. Waystones blocking movement is intuitive, it's a huge block. Them being difficult to remove makes sense, they're important markers. He probably thought about how they could be used, but not about how they could be abused. That comes later after players get a chance to try the new tools.

I'd cut some slack if this was the FIRST time that a permanent blocking object was used for griefing.  But this has happened repeatedly.   It should be immediately obvious that it would create a problem by now.

This isn't a surprising and original abuse of a new mechanic.  It is a highly predictable one.

Punkypal wrote:

So lets be realistic. Jason isn't going to remove murder from the game ever.

I wouldn't be so sure.  He called the 2HOL people bold for removing murder.  Also, he wasn't able to kill off a lineage there when he tried to grief them a while back.

fug wrote:

Why not solve the actual issue with why people /die instead of punishing people for using it?

Well you could do that. As you put it, /DIE is a solution to a problem. But it is a solution that is also a problem, setting up a situation for a very tasty problem sandwich!

People overusing /DIE can thus be solved from either side, either addressing the reasons, or discouraging it's use. Now, addressing the reasons seems like a tricky task to accomplish as the reasons seem many-fold, almost too numerous to fathom.  Yes, a "life choice" screen may solve many of these problems (and I'd support such an option), but it can't solve all the reasons people overuse /DIE.

Case in point: I notice I have babies /DIE way more often if I'm outside of a town than if I'm in a town. They don't even wait for me to say anything. I could literally be two steps outside the town limits picking a wild berry and they just assume I'm a homeless drifter in the deepest depths of the wilderness. IDFK. I always laugh and hope they did /DIE because they wanted to be born back into the town that was literally one screen away and they killed themselves and went to an Eve out on the edge of the known world instead. Losers!

On the flip side, reducing the number of times you can do /DIE, or as I would prefer, just a sliding scale of discouragement, would equally address all uses of /DIE.

Prevention or punishment? The age old question. Prevention is so very much harder to pull off, and fear of punishment just doesn't work on some people because they are stubborn mules or DGAF. Punishment is quick and easy solution and has the side benefit of feeling good, because humans enjoy it when people who do things they don't like suffer! BUT often when you use punishment as a deterrent that often leads to other unforeseen side problems. It's a wack a mole game.

But sometimes when you play "wack a mole" you get enough tickets to get that cool rainbow slinky at the prize booth. Who doesn't like a rainbow colored slinky?

The only good reason i can see for this  would be as a deterrent to people excessively using /die. You have 24 lives, get down below 12 or whatever and there is a chance you'll get some disability. At only 1 life out of 24 there would be 100% chance born disabled.

If this is added only to make the game harder without any corrective or positive think connected, I think we can do without. I really have no need to add a Russian roulette "what game am I even playing this time" aspect to the game.

If you want to make the game harder for you, think of your own creative ways to do that on your own. Feel free to play the game at home with one arm tied behind your back, or tape a piece of wax paper over your screen. Maybe turn the sound off. Better yet, everytime someone murders you in game, just slam your face into a wall. Mmmmmm'kay?

give one tribe the ability to move over the rift 

fug wrote:

testo wrote:

I don´t get it, you get 0.75 points for living up to 60 and I get 0.07 for the same (I am way way  behind with like 50 total points). Also your kids give you way more points compared to mine, I even have a guy that made me loss points fot living to 49.8

You likely have high age expectancy which basically kills your point gain. If your average age is 60 in 10 lives you gain no points what so ever iirc which is why people were abusing the tutorial to keep gains high and thus allowed them to sail to the top of the leaderboards.

Always remember to abuse early and often.

This is pretty ridiculous, I don´t care about leaderboards, but he tied it up with tools which is the way of saying "I´m gonna make you like this think even if you don´t". Also there is a huge disparity in points from relatives, how can I lose points because someone lived to 49.8?

I don´t get it, you get 0.75 points for living up to 60 and I get 0.07 for the same (I am way way  behind with like 50 total points). Also your kids give you way more points compared to mine, I even have a guy that made me loss points fot living to 49.8