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@Joriom

i am really curious how trade could work in a game where a session lasts only for one hour

trade is one of the things i enjoy very much in games, there are unfortunately so few games that do it right, in fact atm there are none

i still miss the Impressions Games trade, this was a true adventure, silos, warehouses, markets, options to set the amount, the things to buy & sell, to see all the things being transported, not teleported !!!, but transported piece by piece from the production place to the selling & distribution place - that was such a rewarding gameplay !
what i always hated on the other hand was how games like The Patrician handled it, with spreadsheets - darn ! that's also why i don't really appreciate games like Banished, too much spreadsheets, all the goods & the management of people takes place mainly in the miniscule spreadsheets & not in the main screen, so what's the point to have a main screen anyway if the most engaging gameplay, trade, transport, production is being managed via a spreadsheet ?

about communication & trade

we need symbolic communication - to signalize in short what we want right now, immediately, time flows as quick in OHOL, time is vital, so there has to be symbols for love, trade, war, hatred, appreciation, teaching, food, bears ... all things that matter in this game
typing just takes too long & for non english speakers it's just impossible to play this way

& yes, there needs to be signs & some kind of possession, the current locks, well, i didn't even manage to smith anything yet in the game, because i usually am too busy keeping the farm going or chasing berry bushes to just plainly survive, so really don't know how all that will pan out to end up in a rewarding gameplay, we'll see

about the people, yes
it really looks like we would indeed need in game something like karma
the idea of karma is the repeat, the rebirth, the reincarnation, the punishment, the reward but also just plainly to know that someone is reliable or not reliable, familiar or someone new
so we can continue where we left off or that we have to start anew
i think, the idea of karma would enrich the gameplay, but it could as well backfire, we'll never know until we test it, i do not know a single game that would work like that, so it had to be tested in OHOL

but i know the answer to the long term goal - it's to experience the life, nothing substantial, nothing lasting, nothing material, it's the experience itself,
this just Being There, at that particular moment in that particular scenery with those particular people around, just The Flow

i think that here begins the true unique experience with OHOL

the inherent lack of continuity - it's in the title already so it must be one crucial element to it - only one hour life, not a sequence of many hours pieced together one after another, not being born in a predictable way in the same place, not with the same name

this reminds me of the movie Cloud Atlas

afaik there are no other games out there where you are forced to deal with a new situation with new people which you depend on & who depend on you, again & again
this is extremely challenging, yes, it is stressful, yes, but it is also unique & i think here lies a treasure in OHOL
i play lots of RTS, i prefer to play every time with a new map, not knowing what the random map generator throws at me, so i sometimes will be doing very badly because the map just sucks, still i find it the most boring gameplay if i have to repeat the same map, even if it was a good map, it still is just boring

with that i have to think what the german poet Johann Wolfgang von Goethe wrote - Oh, Moment stay ! you're so precious !

yes, those are the newbies who should start playing this game to make it more popular

the game is in development, this must have been apparent for you from the very start
the game claims to be about development of civilization, pies & steel tools is not really the top of your current modern RL experience, right ?
so the game is clearly not finished & will change, probably significantly
nobody, nowhere can make sure that this game will when finished be what you expect it to be - why ? because you are not making this game but Jason is, you will have to accept that
how he wants the game is how this game will be, he has proven with all his previous projects that it is far more important to him to go his way & realise his dreams even if it means being unpopular
he did now set out to make OHOL his most popular game, this is one of his tasks, still i doubt it very much he is willing to throw away all his dreams just to be popular, please the current players & avoid pissing anybody off - is not gonna happen
at some point he might sell OHOL to a company which then will have a team instead of just one man developing it, but will this ensure that the game will go the way you want it to be ? well, rather the opposite in my experience, the more popular a game the more luck you need to get exactly the game you like to play
so, as unfortunate for you that the last changes didn't suit you, you still have a FAR better chance to get the game you yearn to play from Jason than from a faceless team of dozens of devs

you are being quite embittered - with a game - made by one man alone - really - GET REAL

you sound like a spoiled child crying because one of its many many many toys is not the right color anymore

& no Jason is not actively doing anything to adress players - he does not make the game "for" players, he makes the game he thinks will be interesting for players to play & it might happen that you are indeed not included or not anymore included - tough, but that's reality

i would still suggest that you step one step back, take a deep breath, stop obsessing & then evaluate if the game has not still values which you don't find elsewhere, in other games

the idea players have that a game designer, a creative mind, a genius, an artist is interested to please the audience is erronous
this is not how things work in reality, at least not always & not with everybody & everything
great things are made very often not to please, they are made because the maker finds an idea not leaving his mind but pester him to be born & made real
the energy & love a maker puts into a thing is what makes a thing attractive - that's the magic
& it drains lots of energy from the maker, it's at times extremely exhausting, but since it is also extremely satisfying & rewarding that's why makers do it

afaik a thing is attractive to an audience & becomes popular because either it hits the right nerv at the right time
or because the maker is being persistent in his vision
i personally find the second way more reliable & it is also repeatable,
because with the first way, there are many people who had one hit only & didn't even know what hit them, so they didn't know how to repeat it
with the second way, it's slower but the maker can learn & one day he knows what to do & what not to do, that's skill

as a side thought, unfortunately there are also examples that the thing becomes popular & appreciated only after the maker is long dead,
i hope Jason doesn't fall into this category, would be unfortunate for him
but it happens, at least we live in an overpopulated world, so the chance to be discovered as a genius is way higher than with people like Vincent Van Gogh eg, but that's for another discussion

@Eve-rlastingGamer

i am for repair as well
vote here https://www.reddit.com/r/OneLifeSuggestions/
there are several threads suggesting repair, unfortunately formulated rather florid & not to the point
i hope Jason still gets the message - the ability to repair things is popular with OHOL players, i think there is nobody who opposes that idea
if the next update won't include repair i will make a new thread asking explicitly for that - REPAIR

why not both ?

i would like to have the alternative
1) make one new basket out of two old
2) use one bundle of reed/wheat to repair the old basket, maybe even a tool inbetween to remove the broken pieces, though i'd find that a little cumbersome

& for you
use the reddit Suggestions - make your own suggestions !

@ConfandibulumFlakes

in game cooperation is surely one of the important gameplay contents but it is not the game's ultimate goal, it is one option

every player spawned as baby needs a little cooperation from the mother or someone else feeding it (just like IRL), but that's it, more cooperation is not neccery needed to play this game & not even to be supportive to others or ... to grief & murder, lol

especially after the decay update there are settllements left behind & that means i can decide as Eve to live from the remnants & bring that settlements as one person, without any kids of my own, a little bit forward, i don't need to have kids, i don't need any form of other cooperation neither from other players nor do i have to teach anybody anything if i don't want to, i still am supportive if i leave a better place to live than i entered or at least in a comparable state to what i encountered, i can't know for sure what will remain, but the same way i don't know for sure what will remain of the big family i am leaving behind as female or Eve

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i don't like being asked if i'm new or if know how to play or if i know the rules or whatever

what's the point ?

it's a game, one can spawn again & again, as long i am not a griefer & murderer it's legit to just play it as one can
most of the players i play with in the game die, i am most of the times one if not the only surviver, sometimes, seldom someone is still there or maybe even more efficient than me,
that's all i have to say about "experienced players", that's how this game is & also every player was at some point a newbee, so just relax

https://www.reddit.com/r/OneLifeSuggestions/

games are made for gamers but not every game is made for every gamer
& games in development often change the gameplay significantly

& in my experience it's dangerous for devs to hear what gamers have to say about the game in development, because those are different people with different needs & often not really compatible, it becomes especially dangerous if the game is not a known & well explored genre & OHOL belongs to those rare games where probably nobody, Jason included knows for sure what a genre it is or should be
OHOL has many very different aspects, & the game leaned heavily towards city builder/houses building in The Sims with the monstroCities before the apocalypse update, this means players who played the game before thought that this game will go straight this way & progress linear further as it has before
but those were expectations which are probably not what Jason has envisioned & with visions is the problem, you often know what will come out of it first after it comes out, maybe even wrong, then you know that it is not going the way of the vision & you try to correct it

if you look at the games Jason made before OHOL, then you can fathom what is interesting for him, if you then add to that Minecraft, then maybe you know it a little better

i think players of OHOL should keep an open mind & after an update pause a little & let the results of the update sink first before comparing the results to their illusionary expectations along what was imagined before the update

on reddit people have suggested decay, Jason made it possible, now others complain
yeah, you can't satisfy every player, that's the reality of games

& the population of the game has dwindled already since i started to look at it, it is now since two weeks something between 70 & 150, on weekends more, on workdays less, we'll see how it develops

i think the most important is that Jason sticks to his own vision, no matter what, the vision is the most crucial part to keep this game, any game going well, not what people are complaining about
the vision is the most important, it has to lead the way, because it is the beacon in unknown, unexplored terrain

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what i also don't understand is that some of you complain that you're unable to do legacies
but what is the point of legacies if there are no family trees in the game ?
i don't think that the current state of the game is about legacies at all, it's more just about survival & learning to be more efficient, more is not there
building more of those monstroCities, that was not my fun, i get it that it was fun for many players but that called then for griefers & murderers & in effect for complaints as well

yeah, i say it again

GET REAL

i think Jason should take a break from Discord, it's too stressful, i am not on Discord for that very reason
i am old enough to know

@TrustyWay
Jason is also not a slave of complaining players, right ?

sounds like RL

& about teaching, if you like that, then stop stressing over other things which you deem important but not as much fun as teaching
it's not like the town is actually dying, not even murdered people are actually murdered, they will respawn, that's how this game is at its basis, one life is just a small part, nothing depends on one life, it all comes together because many participate, that's why teaching is even more important than making new baskets

you can have time in this game - take it & do what you like to do
don't waste it on things you don't like as much

& i think we will get soon repair of things, so ...

btw about breakage of manufactured things & RL

we live in complex progressive societies, it took quite a long time to protect the consumer from a random quality of production of things
people have for thousands of years to put up with random quality of manufactured things, which could then indeed break already with the first use
first at the end of the 18th century, actually mostly first in the 20th century, have people started to develop what is today known as the NORM & the standard, we have now things of comparable minimum quality not because that's how reality is but because people have introduced institutions of minimal norms protected by law

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