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Not a bad idea to get people to encourage others to play either.

"Hey, come play OHOL, we're low on iron and it'll spawn a vein somewhere on the map."

Though it is sort of counter-intuitive to reality. Really, people should be able to get more iron through work, like using a mining pick on, or near, an iron node, should reveal more iron.

And in reality there is some amount of iron averaged out per person, in the goods each person essentially owns. Say, it's something like 100 kg of iron, per person, if you count everything in their home, their cars and their workplaces and average it out.

OK, so 100 kg is way off... it's more like 25 tons, or... 22679.6 kilograms.

But still, that iron, came from work people did and the machines people have made to do work for them
(and the machines people made, to build the machines, to do work for them, etc. etc.)
Some people have a lot more, in the form of industries and skyscrapers that they own, and a lot more, have a lot less.
Most of us have a lot less.
I think if one person owned a car and a house and you added up the weight of all the iron they own, it'd be something like 2 tons, and they probably work in a building, that also includes about 2 tons, but they share it with 20 people or so...

THE POINT IS resources are not made available freely. Everything becomes available because of labor.

But that said, maybe events, as you suggest, could occur based on changes in the population. Like climate change, but in the form of earthquakes that reveal more iron, or in the form of warming, which causes deserts and badlands to grow and for the land to erode, revealing more natural resources.
Maybe even plant growth could be justified due to increased humidity caused by evaporation, as temperatures rise and CO2 levels increase, but then old ponds might dry up at increasing rates as new ones appear at increasing rates.

A more dynamic map would be wonderful, but, as Jason has said, he has a lot on his plate as is.
Let him eat.

Less typy here,
more typy there.

Seems like you're already headed in this direction anyway, but here's another image with 7 axes, for each currently existing biome.

Probably a way to translate the axes into a 2d grid using x,y slope values. y=mx+b, m being the slope, then you have m1, m2,.... I'm sure you get it.

Then just put more, of a biome at one end, less at the other.

If you do it right, you could add future biomes, adjust the axes so they are spaced fairly evenly (or with some variation to, to prefer things like grasslands or what not) or you could even adjust b, where the axis intersect.

You could even get some inspiration from real world maps, like it seems you have, placing the positive end of the tundra axis to the north.

I do play other games.
I don't enjoy them as much as this.
None of them make me feel as good as this.

I enjoy helping others. I enjoy holding you, as though you are my child, and being held by you, as though I were yours.
Almost every day I find a reason to cry while playing this, because of what it really represents; bringing new life, new people, into the world,
and having to accept the loss of our consciousness, in the end.

The truth of it all, as we know from science.
The feeling of it all, as we share through art.
The power of it, as we express with religions.

All of the things human beings have done, as they have come to terms with what they find as their place in the world.

I can't revel in everything I know about us, in any other game, the way I can here.
Because the most important part, for me, is missing, from those games; the responsibility, people feel for each other.
The fragility, the care, the compassion and the empathy, that comes from being born of this process.
Just how precious, life is, and how exceptionally remarkable, we creatures become, as we emerge from a single strand of DNA and grow into these boys that go to the Moon, and bring a piece home to show our mother, what we've found.

This game, is the closest thing I have found to a recreation of everything that I admire about human beings.

We, just can't get that by putting scrips into NPCs. We may never feel it the same way with any other form of intelligence but our own, behind the characters.

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Once again, I've let too many thoughts swim around in my head, and they have taken my tongue.

Here, let me express whats going on with a flowchart, that might make more sense.

The growth of the gaming industry, the growth of social media, like minds, banding together, and more of them.
People are the neurons of the internet, get enough of them to work together and they have the power to keep a heart pumping, or to move the muscles needed to pick up a crying child, or to engage in vigorous procreation. For that matter they now have the power to wrestle, to thrust knives into others chests, or, with the whole process getting so much more efficient, as we learn shortcuts, to simply pull triggers.

But yeah, social media; communication becoming streamlined, and games becoming more mainstream every decade.

Also, we're getting old Jason. The slower games are made, the more the developers engage with their players and customers, as games are being developed, the more those players and customers are feeling responsibilities too.

Imagine if there was an open public alpha test for ET for the 2600. XD

I guess a business man might say this is just the market changing.

Games, played and developed, via the internet; the marketplace of ideas.

The alternative is, you develop your game yourself, lay it ALL out before going public, then you release it.
I was sold on your plan of 100 objects a week. That sounded wonderful.
I saw your talk with your previous partner on the game, where you just added that goofy car on the stage, I saw you add the sheep, and I had this idea of a guy sitting down and drawing for 4 hours a day, and then spending another 4 putting those drawings into that nifty interface of yours, maybe copying some old files of other objects, tweaking a few numbers and that was it. 20 new things added to the game, 5 days a week, and they all roll out on Friday when everyone has the weekend to play with them. Just repeat that for 2 years or so and, bam, 10,000 objects.

You didn't say you were going to be engaging with players in the game's forum, you didn't say anything about discord or anything else but that you were going to add lots of objects at a set pace. That's the main thing most of us bought, along with the setting mechanics and conditions.

I understand it's summer, you have kids, they have free time, you want to spend more time with them for these few weeks.
I'm a little dissapointed you gave us swords to play with, while you went off to play with your kids though.

But I thought we'd learn a good lesson from them and just not bother with them after we'd learned it.
I think it was kind of bad timing, in the grand scheme of things, just, from a sort of historical perspective.

I think another thing is you got people in two different mind sets about the setting of the game.
There's probably those that thing we are just going through history, then theres probably those that think we're in a sort of post present state, where we are just rediscoving things, like, we've come out of bomb shelters and are starting over, like the mutants in KKND.

Now the game is just Pacman; it doesn't need either of those settings. It just is going to be, what is going to be.
Just you throwing assorted toys into the sandbox with us and making up stuff as you go, like, how the G.I. Joes and the Wrestlers use the Tonka truck to combat the Dinoriders living in Castle Greyskull.
I mean, whatever man, it's your game.
You want to add diesel engines and radios before swords, whatever.
Monoliths, Curses, Dark Nosaj's... it's your game man.

I just want to survive, help other people do the same, build some things and imagine I'm a parent,
or a child again.

Some of my earliest memories were faking being asleep on the couch, so I could crack my eyes just enough to see what was on television at night. The comedians swearing and shouting, the audiences laughing, the violence and the sex scenes. But, at the end of the night, when my mother would turn off the television, she made sure to get me into my bed, and it felt comforting to be picked up and carried like that. I might never know what it's like to give that comfort to a child of my own, but at least I remember feeling it. I can only ever imagine what it must be like to be a hungry child or a woman capable of breastfeeding, but I think you did a good job of breaking that down into a game mechanic. It might even turn out to be the best thing you ever give to the world.

Reproduction of your own genes aside.

As long as we don't have another way to make rope, it'd be nice if there was some sort of reproductive mechanic for wild milkweed.
Burdock, wild onions and wild carrots reproduce pretty fast too. Gardeners treat them all like weeds, but really, they're just adaptive plants that grow up fast and spread out quick to soak up the sun from the shorter, slower growing plants around them.

Reminds me of how when I'm in the forest with other people and I ask them to look up, I describe the branches of the trees as an arms race. It's the same thing, just on a slightly smaller scale.

It's really amazing how all those photons aid in the chemistry of life, and how we've grown to make the most of it.

This thread might be handy:

https://onehouronelife.com/forums/viewtopic.php?id=4821

More negativity...

please Jason, add some quirky, obscure, content that no one has asked for.

That's what REALLY makes things interesting.
Not trying to get people to hurt each other.

Something creative.

How about, something heartwarming for a change?

Good game, I was DJ for EVE Radio back when Rinny Wee, DJ Dolby and Scott Manley were onboard. Back in the Days of Exodus, RMR and Rev.
Had my own mining and industrial corp too, churned out megathrons every other day and used the profit for radio contests.

Good times, but I'll probably never go back. I blew too much money and time on implants and learning skills to go back and find they're all pretty useless now.

That's only in some people with sensitive skin and allergies to it. My whole 5th grade class worked with milkweed and I don't recall one of the 100 or so other students having allergic reactions to the milkweed we handled. We did all sorts of projects with it on a field trip and one of the things we were encouraged to do was to feel the latex. That was a long time ago, before people were really making a fuss about declining monarch populations and a field near the campgrounds was just full of the stuff. So we pretty much learned about plants in general by each grabbing our own milkweed plants and tearing open the seed pods and writing paragraphs on what we observed.

The most we were warned is that we shouldn't touch our eyes after getting the sap/milk/latex on our hands, and to wash our hands off with soap and water before lunch.

Playin with those pods left a big impression on me, as this was around the same time I saw the movie Alien and saw a lot of similarities.

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I really miss those field trips. I was always staring out the window in school and didn't do so well in the classroom, but once I got out in the wild and was tasked with collecting leaf samples, or getting plaster casts of animal tracks, I was by far, the most enthusiastic student. Just, every activity, I was all over it. One of the teachers aides was even so impressed I think she even started flirting with me...

why am I saying this here?

She was really sweet though, a very kind and touchy person.

Oh, to be a young boy in the company of young, compassionate, women...

Problem with this idea, the change has lead to panic which has changed player's behaviors.
In the smaller areas players consumed more wild food and worked less.
As the area grew, some began working harder, while others were under the impression they needed to continue consuming any food in sight before anyone else got to it.
It's just not a good measure of behavior, in relation to consumption of resources in a given area, when that area is forcefully limited.

Not to mention the behavior of people who want to exert their own limitations by selectively altering certain resources; cutting maples, staking berry bushes, culling muflon, etc..

Milkweed seeds are spread by winds and flowing water currents.