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#951 Re: Main Forum » Is It Worth Living In A Dead Village? » 2019-06-24 04:34:57

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#952 Re: Main Forum » Is It Worth Living In A Dead Village? » 2019-06-24 04:15:28

sinfulcliche wrote:

There's something eerie and cool about wandering about a village you knew was once full of people.

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Cue the Toto

#953 Re: Main Forum » Way Off Topic: Rubik's Cube » 2019-06-24 02:53:58

Morti wrote:

noted with a prime, or colon mark '

PS
This ' is an apostrophe
This : is a colon
This , is a comma
This ; is a semicolon

BUT THIS `is a prime
also this ~ is a tilde, it's pronouned til-duh

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The prime symbol, ` is below the the tilde ~ on the key above the tab...

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(Why am I making such a big deal over this?)

See if you can solve the cube, and let me know if you do.

No rush, just think about it, and if you can solve it, translate your thoughts to text and share them.

I'm more interested in getting you to think about it, you using your spatial awareness and solving it, and you communicating that thought process. If I only wanted the solution, I'd have clicked next 2 hours ago and been done with it.

Even if you don't respond with a message, think about it. How easy is it for you to solve it, if you can?
Feel free to put the info into grubiks, in the state it's in, if it eats at your brain for too long, but honestly, your brain could probably do without an easy solution provided by the internet once in a while. I suggest letting it stew in your head for a night if you can't figure it out. Then, if it's not easier to solve tomorrow, do as you like.

#954 Main Forum » Way Off Topic: Rubik's Cube » 2019-06-24 02:26:17

Morti
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Can you solve this Rubik's Cube in 4 steps?

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So, about 10 years ago I used to spend about 10 hours a week, every week, for about a year, solving Rubik's Cubes, mostly repeating the algorithm's in the little manual that comes with the cube, but also looking up solutions online. I spent a lot of time watching videos and reading stories about cubers; speedcubers mostly. I did that until I could solve a cube without looking at written down algorithms or using any sort of cube solver. Then I stopped cubing.

Fastforward to last week when I was out shopping for props, for my OHOL pictures in these two threads:
Off Topic: Any of you play KIDS yet?
and
I went outside.
and I saw a cube at a thift store and while trying to solve it there, realized I'd forgotten the algorithms for the bottom layer's cross and corners. I barely even remembered the algorithm for the sides of the second layer and gave up on the cube in the store. Well, after finding all my props my mind was still on the cube, so I bought it, for 25 cents. The cube in the pictures is that cube. I have one in storage as well, but, it was easier just to buy this cube. Besides, it was already in the arrangement I wanted to try and solve.

Well, I have been working on it for about 3 hours over the last week and I have failed to recall the algorithms for the bottom layer.
So, I looked up some videos, got a little distracted by other things and decided to just go back to my old routine of learning all over again by exploring the web for other solutions. That's when I found Grubik's, and decided to plug this cube into it just for fun to see what the solver was like. Over the course of the steps, well, almost immediately, I realized the solver wan't using the "standard" (L1&L2: white cross to side faces, L1: white corners, L2: side sides, L3: yellow cross, L3: yellow corners) algorithms to solve the cube. I knew there were other ways, speedcubers use them quite often, as do machines programmed to solve cubes.

Well, when I got to step 16 I realized I needed to visualize the cube in another way, if I was ever going to learn these new algorithms comfortably and that is when I made that third picture in MS Paint. While making it a thought about a lot of things, mostly playing OHOL as my brain just does that a lot when it wants to escape from learning too many new things these days, but that also got me thinking about you; the community of OHOL and I wondered if any of you had taken an interest in Rubik's Cubes before, or if you were interested in solving puzzles in general. I figured I'd put the state of this cube before you and see if you can solve it in just 4 moves, or, steps, as Grubik's calls them.

Now, this is my first time ever using Grubik's as far as I can recall, but , so far there have been 3 moves that count as steps:

turning a face 90 degrees clockwise,
turning a face 90 degrees counterclockwise,
and turning a face 180 degrees.

Each of those counts as one step.

Now, some speed cubers will add steps like turning layer 2, 90 or 180 degrees, but that is the same as turning the top or bottom face 90 or 180 degrees. I'm not sure if any "rules" as far as steps go, say, for competitions where people solve cubes in the least number of steps, would count moving a central layer or column, as a move or a step, but for the purpose of this challenge, since I don't know what Grubik's is going to have me do next, let's just say it's possible, but not probable.

The solution is more than likely going to require the turning of the faces.

So, can you do it?

Based on the pictures, can you tell what the next 4 steps are going to be before the cube is solved?

Now, Grubik's is currently telling me to turn the faces relative to the orientation of the cube, as seen in the fourth picture. Using words like TOP Layer, BOTTOM Layer, LEFT Side, Right Side, FRONT Side and, BACK Side. But I think it would be easier for the sake of conversation, to refer to the faces by the color of the central piece.

I'm not looking at the cube right now, but let's just say some examples of moves would be

Blue 180
Red 90 clockwise
White 90 counter clockwise

or, to be more concise, something like
red
might just be red 90 degrees clockwise
red cc
would be red counterclockwise
and red 180, or even, red 2
might be a 180 degree turn of the red face.

Any sort of notation that makes sense to you, you're free to use.

Probably the most common notation used are single letter ones for the side, based on an orientation, or for color, and the counterclockwise of that is noted with a prime, or colon mark '
So, the face colors would be
White W
Yellow Y
Red R
Orange O
Green G
Blue B

So, W R W' would be White face turned 90 degrees clockwise, red face turned 90 degrees clockwise, white face turned 90 degrees counterclockwise.

Worth noting people also, more often it seems, use the notations for sides in algorithms. Those are
Top T
Bottom B
Left L
Right R
Front F
Back... oh wait

Bottom is usually Down D and Back is B.

T D L R F B, yeah, that's more like it. Anyway, that assumes you are holding the cube so that the faces are always in the same orientation, which can be useful.

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Okay, well, in the time it took me to type all this, Grubik's has cleared my cube, so I'm just going to close that and see if I can solve the last 4 moves on my own. Feel free to join me and chime in on your experience with cubes, with 3D visualization or with any memory devices or techniques you use to get yourself through solving cubes.

Everyone has different degrees of spatial awareness and I'm always interested in finding out to what degree different people grasps puzzles like Rubik's Cubes or how your degree of spatial awareness helps you elsewhere.

Sidenote, spatial awareness is really handy when playing OHOL without any sort of zoom modification. If you use a mod and would like to enjoy that challenge again, I suggest playing without one for a life or two. It's a really enjoyable experience to have to put more things to memory, in their directions relative to other things, as well as to move among all those memories.


Our brains are really amazing, enjoy using them, for all they can do.

#955 Re: Main Forum » How many old players still play? » 2019-06-20 10:48:20

Sukallinen wrote:

...plant in clay-rich soil I've found you get best carrots ! They're tiny, but not like store-bought carrots that are just made tiny and have no taste, self-made small ones in clay soil have very rich flavor !

Thanks for the tips. I have a small piece of land in the woods, I was thinking of starting a garden there. I'm not certain what the soil content is like, I know there is sand about 2 meters down, but most of the land around it is very swampy; lots of cattails. Pretty sure the clay content of the soil near the swamps is fairly high.

#956 Re: Main Forum » How many old players still play? » 2019-06-20 04:54:02

I want to meet the people who played this before I did.
I want to hug people who played this in 2017.
I want to say, I love you, in person, for real, to all the people who played with me my first day.

If you read this, and you are someone that played in March 2018 or before, thank you.
I love you.

Though I really love you all. Those that came before me have a special place in my heart.
Back when the stability of the food economy always hinged on a single carrot seed.

For those of you that remember that time, I have a gift

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That hand wishes at the very least, it could hold yours; to shake it, while I say thank you. Though I'd much rather use it to pull your back towards me, and say I LOVE YOU. For caring for me, for letting me care for you, and for working with me so that we, could give others the chance to do the same.

#957 Re: Main Forum » I went outside. » 2019-06-11 03:06:09

testo wrote:

Someones gonna die naked in the snow trying to kill a seal. Just saying.

This one is about a 400 km trip south.
I probably won't be making a seal skin coat from it.
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No promises though.

#958 Re: Main Forum » I went outside. » 2019-06-11 02:56:24

kittykatthegreat wrote:

This is great! lol

Thank you, so are you.

#959 Re: Main Forum » I went outside. » 2019-06-11 02:51:04

antking:]# wrote:

wait wait wait! people still go OUTSIDE!

isn't it like dangerous!


some questions about the outside world:

how many turkeys have you seen
how many wild boars
and have you seen bear caves!
also do people still eat..... corn?

There are a lot of wild turkeys around here, well, I say around here, but they are about, let's see, if a step is a meter, and springs are about 40 steps apart, I'd say the closest ones I've ever spotted are about... 40 springs west.
It'll take me a while to track them down.

I'm not in the right biome for wild boars. Though I have seen some pigs I thought might be semi-tamed boars.
There are a few farms with pigs on them within walking distance, but I probably won't be making carnitas any time soon.

There are still bears around here. I've seen a few wild ones as well as some kept in pens at rest stop about 200 km south, probably won't be going there any time soon. From what I know of the bears around here, they dig burrows in the ground for winter, but they sleep anywhere they like from spring till fall. Generally in dense vegetation.

A good portion of the farms around here are in fact corn farms. Contrary to what you might think, most people don't farm berries, but those that do, are famous for it, and hundreds of people help to pick them every day when they are in season. The ones called strawberries, are the most common, but there are also blueberry farms, blackberry farms, and apple orchards. No one to my knowledge grows gooseberries. Another very important crop around here are sugar beets. If you've ever had breakfast cereal, chances are pretty good you've eaten sugar from this area that started out as beets. There is also a town nearby, about 45 km NW, that is so proud of their potatoes, they hold a festival every year and it attracts people from all across the server. There is also a town famous for it's cherries, about 200 km west. As for the corn, most people drink it. It get's heated until the sugar comes out, and gets added to water, along with other things. What's left of the corn gets fed to cows, but it's also used in many other things, like breakfast cereals.

#960 Re: Main Forum » Sharing Recorded Games, do they contain private information? » 2019-06-11 01:47:31

InSpace wrote:

...

jasonrohrer wrote:

I don't think so, unless you actively typed personal info into the game during the recording (like if you were logging in for the first time, you'd type your email).

Thanks, now just to figure out a convenient way to share them.
I tried pastebin and almost crashed my PC.
Then I tried megaupload, seemed to work okay.

#961 Re: Main Forum » I went outside. » 2019-06-11 00:38:43

futurebird wrote:

PLEASE tell me you you aren't running around the neighborhood in nothing but one pice of rabbit fur and a raggedy seal pelt...

Woah, slow down!
I only just got stakes and rope.
These things take time.
You realize every second in the game is equivalent to 6 days??

Give me a second.


I'm still naked.

#962 Re: Main Forum » I went outside. » 2019-06-11 00:31:45

jasonrohrer wrote:

That's a plastic basket.

OK, fine,
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since it's you.
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There, that better?
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#963 Re: Main Forum » I went outside. » 2019-06-11 00:25:10

jasonrohrer wrote:

That's a plastic basket.

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#964 Re: Main Forum » I went outside. » 2019-06-11 00:18:10

Valareos wrote:

I caught myself looking at a tree and checking if it had a straight branch on it....

I totally understand what you mean, now!

I went out looking for a straight branch today, found some maple trees.
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Nothin.
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Nothin here either.
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It can really get you down, not finding what you're after.
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But sometimes,
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sometimes you get lucky.
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Sometimes everything is perfect.
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And ya just gotta dig into it.
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You work at it.
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And with the right effort.
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You get what you're after.
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Then at the end of the day.
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You can treat yourself to something special.
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#965 Re: Main Forum » I went outside. » 2019-06-10 20:20:21

TF when you see a Big Hard Rock IRL.
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45.aiff

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#966 Main Forum » I went outside. » 2019-06-10 19:31:08

Morti
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Saw this,
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Score.
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#967 Main Forum » Sharing Recorded Games, do they contain private information? » 2019-06-10 18:23:39

Morti
Replies: 4

Is there anything in a recorded game text file that would reveal any personal information about a users account or password?
Are they safe to share with others?

Let's say I want to make this last file public.
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Is there any private information in one of these files that I should be concerned about, or is it all information that anyone could run with a similar (or any) version of One Life?

#968 Re: Main Forum » Off Topic: Any of you play KIDS yet? » 2019-06-10 15:04:50

Sukallinen wrote:

What ? Does dwarf fortress have sounds now ´?

Please don't hurt trees, they're our friends and only china has so far succeeded (well, Finland naturally) replanting trees to replace hacked/punched down ones... (just shameless bump, this original nice, Morti, sorry for all of us for changing it to mundane from divine)

DF has had that classic guitar for as long as I can remember. It's Tarns brother Zach on the guitar. Why does everyone on Earth not know this by now? You know it's been awhile, maybe I should read up on the Adams Brothers. Maybe I'm wrong and that's just a repeated thing that isn't really true.
... oh no.
Oh no...
Damn it, I've been lying for all these years?
http://dwarffortresswiki.org/index.php/Soundtrack
"The in-game music is played on a 6-string guitar by Toady One himself."

http://dwarffortresswiki.org/index.php/Toady_One
"Toady One (or just Toady) is the nickname used by Tarn Adams"
http://dwarffortresswiki.org/index.php/ThreeToe
"ThreeToe is the nickname used by Zach Adams"


Damn it! I had it wrong this whole time!? I thought one of the brothers was the programmer and the other was the "creative" one that did guitar, art and story stuff. Argh!!!!!!!!111111111asdf

For at least 10! years, 10 friggin years, I have been repeating this information across forums, and to friends, and even to other DF players, and no one has ever corrected me. !?

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I can't believe I never actually bothered to verify this... it just, made sense. =/
I feel terrible, for all the people I've lied to.
Worst of all, I feel bad, because I was wrong.

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moving on

Sukallinen wrote:

only china has so far succeeded (well, Finland naturally) replanting trees to replace hacked/punched down ones...

I think India deserves mention as well... https://www.nature.com/articles/s41893-019-0220-7
"...but in India is mostly from croplands (82%) with minor contribution from forests (4.4%)"
Ooh, okay, well, they have some world records at least?

India Plants 50 Million Trees in One Day, Smashing World Record 3 years ago

India plants 66 million trees in 12 hours as part of record-breaking environmental campaign 2 years ago

They'll get there.

Finland, huh?

- 1 hour later

I wish there was a better way of looking up the Leaf Area Index (LAI) change by country, say, over the last 5, 10, 20 years.
Every country should be listed and their LAI for each year should be known, then we could see the trend for each country over time.

Like this image alJpiFH.png but on a spreadsheet with sortable columns, one of which would be LAI change over time by square kilometer. Big countries get a lot of attention, but I'm sure there are many smaller countries who are making great strides towards increasing the LAI of their little piece of the Earth.

Or better yet, forget borders altogether.

I want a 3 dimensional view of the Earth, like Google Earth, that I can put search information into, like, area and LAI.

So let's say I want to find a contiguous area of 100 square kilometers, with the highest LAI on Earth.
Or, all circles, with a radius of 100 kilometers, where the LAI is greater than 10. Maybe even a topographic globe, where the texture is the data. And, for data like this, you could either have the alarming data where the LAI overtime is negative, show as a peak, coming off the sphere, or, if you were looking for areas where the LAI was increasing, you could switch it and see where the peaks were coming off the globe by setting the positive z (z in this case being like the altitude above sea level) to a positive LAI overtime.

Anyway, too much gabbing.

While I am glad that people are regrowing their trees for now, I think we should also be looking for ways to replace the functions that trees serve over time. Not now though, the population of Earth is still too small to warrant large investments in replacing life with technology, at least when it comes to things like producing oxygen, or, for maintaining or increasing biodiversity for the sake of potential benefits from the chemistry that would occur naturally as opposed to what we can do in labs.

Yeah, we should maintain habitats for a lot of the species on this planet, but those species are also going to have to adapt to the world we are changing this planet into, just as all species have had to adapt to changes. Life is now mass producing it's most capable form, most intelligent, and yes, most destructive form, in people. The good that we are capable of, as far as the ability we have to spread life to other worlds throughout the universe, far, FAR, outweighs all the harms we could cause here on Earth.

So long as we get life to other worlds, before our ability to severely harm all of them here, has reached the point where we could end life entirely through some sort of chemical or physical process.

We have a few timers that are ticking down, and one of the most significant ones that we are aware of, is the aging of the sun.

If we are not capable of supporting life after the sun dies. Nothing else matters.
Nothing can matter, without life to concern itself.

#969 Re: Main Forum » Off Topic: Any of you play KIDS yet? » 2019-06-10 00:00:23

Jojigirl wrote:

Curious, does anyone know if you could replace those music files with your own music? Maybe by renaming your music files to the same name. Would that work?

Yeah, it works.
I took the classical guitar theme from Dwarf Fortress
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pasted it into OHOL and moved music_01 to the desktop, then I renamed the theme song from Dwarf Fortress to music_01
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played the game, and about a minute into the game the DF music kicked in.
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(You'll just have to imagine the guitar playing.)

#970 Re: Main Forum » Off Topic: Any of you play KIDS yet? » 2019-06-09 23:11:39

Roblor wrote:

Well... If you can't smell the trees, might as well punch 'em! big_smile

Well all right,

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if you say so.

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Ouch.

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Damn tree,

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almost broke my hand!

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OWE!

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That hurt!

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Stop it tree!

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I'm bleeding,

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because of you!

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Owey.

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Wait a minute...

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What the heck is this!? You guys...

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I think we have a GRIEFER!

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Well, that was a fun project.

But on my way home, I found a basket of stones in the woods.

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Come on you guys, don't just leave stuff layin out in the woods.

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#971 Re: Main Forum » Off Topic: Any of you play KIDS yet? » 2019-06-09 14:07:04

Sukallinen wrote:

When having flu or not able to smell well, couple of new growth of spruce (~1cm, bright green) for either tea or part of salad-you see when they're bright they're that 1cm growth. I pick (after coffee) strong tasting young birch leaves to snack on while on walk, preferably in forest. Always just few from each tree.

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Here ya go, I found you some spruce tips. They're a little larger than they are when I normally like to eat them. I haven't had any for a few weeks now, but I tried one, and, sure enough, the needles are just starting to get a little too firm for my liking. I've never made tea out of them, I usually just snack on them if I'm in the forest in the spring. They remind me a lot of broccoli, texture wise. If anyone else has never had them before, they are really good.
Also got some birch, or at least, what I am fairly certain is birch, from the woods nearby. In the top left corner are leaves from one of the small trees, it was maybe 2 meters tall, the leaves are still rounded.
Top center of the picture is some new growth off a much larger one, maybe 10 to 15 meters tall. The leaves are double toothed when mature.
Some of these trees, which I have always thought of as birch, but may be some kind of aspen, beech or poplar, I'm not entirely certain what the distinctions are at this point, (the internet is not my brain, though I am one of it's neurons) have some fungi growing on them. I'm going to see what kind it is. It might be chaga, but it doesn't look like any kind of chaga I'm familiar with. There are some more of the traditional burnt lump looking fungal growths higher up in the trees, but these ones with the rounded bottoms are closer to the ground and could easily be harvested.

I'd like to try some chaga tea, if I can verify that one of these growths is, in fact, chaga. But, no rush.

Here are some pics of the woods.

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This is where I go for fresh air, and to feed mosquitoes. >.>

The album of all above pictures, minus the monitor one.
https://imgur.com/a/jo73KRV

Just took these in the last hour ago.

#972 Re: Main Forum » Off Topic: Any of you play KIDS yet? » 2019-06-09 10:54:44

Sukallinen wrote:

At 4am when sun begins to rise but dew still, going for a walk and once appletrees are in bloom get some, if from friends place then ask which ones ok to cut-there are always some, and if you don't own trees he'll have good cutters nearby to use (waiting for appletrees to bloom still). So subtle smell, goes directly to oldest parts of brain leaving creativity and positivity for more imaginative parts. When having flu or not able to smell well, couple of new growth of spruce (~1cm, bright green) for either tea or part of salad-you see when they're bright they're that 1cm growth. I pick (after coffee) strong tasting young birch leaves to snack on while on walk, preferably in forest. Always just few from each tree.

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Here's some for you too Sukallinen.

#973 Re: Main Forum » Off Topic: Any of you play KIDS yet? » 2019-06-09 10:47:53

CatX wrote:

@Morti

Thank you for sharing, I could almost smell the sweet fragrance of the flowers and trees smile

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#974 Re: Main Forum » Off Topic: Any of you play KIDS yet? » 2019-06-09 10:27:52

For real, go outside and get a flower and bring it inside near your computer.
Then just take a whiff of it every few minutes.
It's quite... intoxicating?
Why do we even use that word to say what it means?
This feeling and the root word, toxic, are like, complete antonyms.
Purifying?
I suppose, if you look at life as a game of chasing after attractions, it certainly is purifying in that way; it makes me want to go get more.
I think refreshing would probably be a better word for it.
Especially given this medium of communication.

Go get a flower and refresh your life.
And while you're out there, get one for someone else too.

It's such a simple gesture, when was the last time someone gave you a flower?
If someone gives you a flower
it's a good sign you mean something very important to them.
Give a flower to someone that means something important to you.

I recommend blossoms, like apple or cherry blossoms, just pinch off some you could fit in the palm of your hand. Or some lilac, find a lilac bush in your neighborhood and give a piece of that to someone, or treat yourself to some, if you don't have anyone to give some to. Just keep your nose open and your head up, and if you catch a whiff of something nice when you're out and about, bring some home with you.
With enough practice you'll easily learn to distinguish between the smell of flowers you can pick out of people's yards, and dryer vents. Some people use some pretty nice smelling dryer sheets though, so, while it's not certainly as pleasant as walking around neighborhoods with a lot of flowers, it can be a treat to catch several of your neighbors all doing laundry at the same time.

I find 9 AM or so a good time to catch housewives doing their sheets and blankets and then 9 PM or so a good time to catch wind of clothes. I don't know though, your neighborhoods may vary. Just get out more and find out for yourself. Trust me, it's a pleasant thing to pick up on. You think I'm being creepy telling you this, but trust me, if you get i the habit of taking your walks at peak washing times, or at least, of the times when people who use dryer sheets that you really like the smell of in the breeze. Your walks will instantly make you 20, maybe even 25% happier than they would have otherwise. And laundry is done year round, most flowers only bloom once a year... but when they do. There is just no comparison.

Get out and smell some flowers.

#975 Re: Main Forum » Off Topic: Any of you play KIDS yet? » 2019-06-09 09:43:42

That was amazing.

So many flowers between here and the beach. It's twilight, so, the sun is rising. Jupiter is so bright in the sky, it's beautiful. Following it into the west was Saturn. And just above Saturn I could still make out the summer triangle of Vega, Altair and Deneb.

The best scents though, came from the abandoned and "neglected" lots with the overgrown yards. The smells that come off of the plants we demonize as weeds, is one the world needs to rekindle with. I am almost certain that it is our treatment of the native plants of these areas that has caused very real disruptions in the life cycles of species like the bees and the butterflies, among many others that are not just responsible for pollination, but also for what they bring to the ecosystem in the form of readily available chemical diversity through the consumption and decomposition of their remains.

I took some blossoms off a tree in someone's yard. I really hope they don't mind, but if I see them again in the future, I'll let them know. Maybe I'll give them a gift. There are a lot of places here that sell flowers, they sell them for so much, and then, just weeks after they've put them out on the shelf, or outside the front of their store, you can often find the ones that didn't sell for top dollar, sitting outside by the dumpsters in the back. I think most people don't have the heart to throw them away, or, it's just some unwritten custom in this area. I don't know, but, once the flowers are back behind the buildings by the dumpsters, they are fair game for anyone to come and get them. So, I may scout some of the stores for a flower or two and just leave it on the person's front door step.

These blossoms smell so nice.

I'm so glad I went outside.

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