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Just please note that the end condition will trigger griefers. If "number of babies dead" is in that equation in any way, shape or form, griefers will kill babies.

If number of families is in that equation, they will end families.

If number of carrots planted is in that equation, they will plant carrots. (Well perhaps not.)

Although I see your point, and although I am all for educating people about the best foods, if there is only one right way to eat then that means there's an underlying problem with the game itself. Because we play to have fun, and eating different foods, discovering what can be eaten, finding another yum item just in time, preparing for future eating by carrying the next food in your backpack, or learning how to prepare different meals; for some people that is all part of the fun.

I for one do appreciate the slow explanations.

Ok, so here's the question:

If the game is able to show me a naked player in step one "Far away player uses kill command on you" - then something is loaded, right? Or I wouldn't even see a naked player.

So why can't the sound play as well...?

Would it be possible to prevent killing until the client confirms that everything is loaded? Or would that enable client side hacks?

I'm not sure what path Jason is on, but as for the current game mechanics, this is my impression of why various elements were introduced:

- The Rift is a solution to people being too far apart.
- The apocalypse is a way to reset the world when it becomes boring.
- Killing was originally to be a way for players to deal with griefers themselves, and to create more interesting stories.
- The curse system and Donkey town are ways for people to deal with griefers.
- The war swords are a solution to people not feeling like their family matters more than strangers.
- The property fences had several functions: As a defense against warriors, and as a means to encourage trade. I believe they were also meant to make people spend more time with their closest family.

And it seems to me that the current plan is to refine these elements until they function together in such a way that most people find most lives to be interesting in some way.

Personally, I wish he would have dropped the Rift and gone for an open world with simpler road building including a way to produce flat rocks as well as nerfed war swords/peace mechanic instead.

I don't get the feeling that people who eat less efficient foods in order to yum do it in order to feel superior.

I get the feeling they're doing it because they want to be more efficient with the foods that are readily available.

If you're working in the forge, for example, or on some big project, you want to spend little time eating and lots of time working. But time looking for good yum items is time not spent on the project. If there is milk available, for example, surely they are willing to drink the milk over the corn. But if they can't find the cow, while they do find the corn - and they most likely will because the stew farm is easy to spot - it is quicker to eat it and go back to work than it is to search for more efficient food that might not even be there.

In other words - beans and corn are good yum items not because they give more pips, but because they are easier to find. Availability needs to be added to the equation, because time spent hunting down a cow is time not spent on other important work in town.

Good point.

In the end, the food that saves the village from famine is the food that's being eaten... Milk is worthless if people don't recognize it as food.

I would like it if all containers with edibles could have the same color, or some other distinguishing mark. If you're used to seeing pale blue bowls of berries, for example, it might be easier to recognize that a pale blue bucket contains drinkable milk.

Also, I'd love the ability to attach a ladle to crocks of food and buckets of drinkable liquids. That way, people wouldn't have to run around searching for empty clay bowls before they are able to eat.

Can we take a moment to appreciate that cooked beans are now edible?

https://onetech.info/1292-Bowl-of-Cooked-Beans

Multi-core Processor + Turkey = Millennium Falcon

It seems to be extremely hard right now, yes. But back when it was easier, the disadvantage with the Dark Nosaj was that you didn't need high tech to complete one. Even if the ingredients were readily available, it would reset the Arc too soon. Also, End Towers were usually built in secrecy. It was not a project the player base worked on together.

Ideally the ending of the arc should not be dependent on griefers at all...

But you can give us a puzzle that does not rely on griefers to make it hard.

For example:

"30 years to winter. That's when all crops dies and if you don't have a fire going and plenty of wood to burn by then, you die as well."

or

"The volcano is stable now, but 50 years from now it becomes unstable. You will be living on a ticking bomb. If you do not manage to build four end towers around the volcano base, the apocalypse will happen."

Also, don't forget that what is interesting to someone studying the events of the Arc and the development of the families from outside is not the same as what is interesting to people living lives ingame. The game, with or without a Rift, should still offer all the different possibilities of interesting experiences that it can. Sometimes, running around alone and exploring is interesting, especially if you haven't done so before. You're learning to avoid bugs and boars and surviving in the wild. Sometimes, what someone finds interesting is peaceful roleplay - marrying or making friends. Building structures. Learning something new. When I want to learn, I do it on one of the other servers. Back when I learned forging, I did it in the tutorial area. There's usually not time nor opportunity to learn more advanced stuff on the main server.

Consider that - one of the most interesting things to do in the game, learning how to do stuff, is best done alone, off the main server.

Shouldn't that be a bigger part of the game? "Hey, uncle Mac, how do you build a diesel engine?" "Oh, I'm so glad someone is interested in learning! Come, let me show you the first few steps. I'm not sure we'll be able to complete it this life, but at least you'll have a basic understanding." Now that would be an interesting life. Not an interesting story perhaps. Nothing to entertain people viewing it from the outside. But deeply satisfying.

There will always be griefers, but the game should strive to make the griefers unimportant to the overall tale of what the game is. That's when the game will be truly interesting - to me at least.

I agree with this.

Whatever the fail condition is, it will color everyone's experiences in the game. Not only because griefers are going to do whatever it takes to reset the Arc, but because normal players will join in on the activity once the Arc feels unlivable. So to end the Arc, one should be forced to do something constructive, and not just kill other families.

I'd also like it if the work people did wasn't lost automatically. What if the Apocalypse just moves everyone into a new Rift instead? The whole map could be a pattern of Rifts, an the hardest technology could be bridge building. So eventually, it could be possible to return to the old towns.

Tbh, I don't play much anymore either. To me, random killers don't make the game more exciting.

Morti.

If you love doing what you do, that's great.

But just maybe there are more ways than your way to enjoy this game.

Relax and trust that the new players will grow into the kind of players they're meant to be.

-Love-