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it's at best debatable

you also summed up my entire post to one sentence taken out of context
the initial sentence i replayed to was "Why would anyone want to advance tech if early life were cosy?"
if life is cozy, means there is no struggle, the initial theory was "nobody will advance if there is no hardship & pressure"
i pointed out the pressure of boredom which is a usual occurance if life becomes cozy
also mentioned curiosity as one of the main driving factors of life, especially regarding a new generation

some of the other aspects here are also
- OHOL is not a historic representation of human evolution or human culture development
- mathematical formulas can be at best approximations, they are good for statistical calculations, not to understand what makes living beings change
- the number of people living in a given time is one of the main causes for limited advancement, very often severly underestimated
here a good depiction https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PUwmA3Q0_OE&t=259s

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all migrations in that stage i've been to ended up deadly
so i don't recommend it

it's better to give up if Eve didn't find a good spot
& just start over in next life

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the /die option should be limited
like one per hour played

but in general

a supposedly social game filled with players which are that egoistic & spoiled tells something about
the imbalance regarding the lack of reward to being social & the lack of costs to being egoistic

something about that has to change

being social has to be rewarded, it has to have a value, it has to be worth it to care for others around
that's the most important part
but the death in the same family, in the presence of a player should be counted as a failure of that player to care
some sort of punishment for that lack of care had to be implemented

the game shouldn't be just an elaborate multiplayer crafting game

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i don't see any special pattern, maybe rather more /die with Eve, early beginner & if i am out of town
but players also /die middle in town, next to clothed people, in all kinds of circumstances
so not really any apparent pattern

i repeat what i wrote in the other thread about why i /die, that's
mostly either because the town is known to me as horribly built or i am born next to murders or the people are interacting in a manner i don't wanna be part of or it's apparently an Eve trying to get hold of her own life first

& well, at times i have just misclicked logging in to the game or realise i have not enough time or something comes up suddenly

so to the question
the least babies & me as baby /die if the mother is nice & is greeting me friendly or if i greet the baby
the general cirumstances are rather incidental

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you underestimate boredom as motivator

boredom & curiosity

imo
people evolved not because they were driven by lack but because they were bored with the same stuff repeating in a loop
young people in general don't want to do the same stuff their parents & grandparents did, they want to do new stuff
people go out to explore because they are curious if they can find something else, surely not if they can find the same what they have left behind
those are all real motivators to advance & to progress

but Jason was advised by someone who thought that people have to be forced to advance, that technology is mainly the solution to problems
but reality is, people do all kinds of silly stuff just to escape from boredom, griefing included

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petty arguments ...

to come back to my original suggestion & the reasoning behind

building walls the wrong way is too easy
even just building the houses is too easy resulting in people building them at whim without any thought to the functionality or usefulness or placement

while the option to correct those mistakes or outright griefing is too expensive

today i used up three pickaxes on three walls i destroyed to make one silly building with just one door accessible from all sites - that's the reality in game
& i think, it's time to change that

https://www.reddit.com/r/OneLifeSuggest … tonewalls/

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@Léonard

1. after months there was one update to stacks - carrots - ONE
2. in the meantime we've got cars, planes, radios, several newcomen pump objects, food expansion, new clothing, new apocalypse to craft ...

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my vision

if many objects were stackable, THIS would encourage players to stack them, resulting in a tiny bit more organization - the simple way, fast, without complications & additional objects, right where the things are being produced

after they would be put in stacks you still had the option to organize them better in shelves or whatever else objects, but which you had to make first

players, mostly in beginner bases would make more stacks while in developed towns shelves would be the norm

since stacks are simpler, so stacks have to come first, that's reason

you criticise Jason for struggle & hardship in game
while you are asking for more, new, elaborate aka HARD TO MAKE objects to organize mess in them
crafting & tech is harder to make than stacks
you contradict yourself

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while you are "focused on tech", i am focused on the underlying functionality & flow of the basic goods needed for survival & just simply - life

i would gladly smith some kerosine pump & such, only i am too busy collecting spread plates, bringing broken steel tools back to forge, saving left to despawn straw by collecting elaboriously berries in endless berry bush farms, trying to remove berry bushes while others work fast to spread the farm farther, getting milkweed seeds from afar, trying to survive without clothes because those with a backpack just stand around munching the last pies & ... so ... on

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& btw
i couldn't care less about lineage
i hate to be female in this game
& i like the peace one has while hunting rabbits
yep, you clearly have no clue about me

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also

i am against any points system in OHOL
it will make the game gamey

the most strong point of OHOL is it's simulating life
there is no actual points or achievements while living

just because players are brainwashed to expect points in a game does not mean OHOL should have a point system
just move out of the box & learn to play in a different way, be creative instead to be a comfy achiever & points counter

nevertheless
i think steam achievements would be a good middle ground
not as content of the game itself but still telling players if they've done something right & showing them how they can be productive in the game
i am not unhappy without steam achivements but i wouldn't be against them either

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it wasn't always that way
before the decay update players had more time to teach noobs, the atmosphere was more relaxed
though it had the same building craze as now with all the stone wall rooms because the life was so easy

& about new players
youtube might recruit new players but are those who return to play ? or will they be gone after the newest fast paced game is out ?
you are rather an exception to the rule

i am not against flashy new updates but the last two brought upon us more chaos only short after the carrots update brought a tiny bit of bitterly needed order
i wrote that already few times, i believe, chaos in game makes players not to care & calls for a throwaway life
concentration on the flashy updates introduces players to the game which are selfish, short lived & unsupportive,
they come because of the glam, not because of how cooperative or comunicative the game is, resulting in a bad in game atmosphere

& i've given up on chaos by now
don't even try anymore
the only thing i do is bringing plates & broken steel tools to where they are needed
but everything else ... i am just running in circles in vanilla & can't find a tool next to me cause of all the stuff scattered everywhere without any organization

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i voice my true opinion
but i will also support a suggestion if i don't think it endangers any gameplay

& what dangers lie in stackability of some of the objects ? like poo ? or meat ? or tomatoes ?

but no

"all objects should not be stackable, the world will crumble if we had stackable meat,
we should build not only first but SOLELY elaborate shelves & whatnot before we can get some order into the chaos"

just look through the suggestions against stackability, they all are about introduction of additional craftable objects

only one player asked why we can't have both

yeah
why can't we have stackability & craftable containers ?

nope
craftable containers are THE ONLY OPTION according to those bored with simple life in OHOL

the community is falling apart in game
just play a run & you meat noobs not knowing what they are doing, nearly nobody helping them, pros who only smith or make now clothes like mad because that's the latest update, few work their butt off trying to get a hold of the chaos & some sprinkled griefers inbetween - some community

i bet those making the elaborate suggestions are "too advanced in their skill set" to bother with making compost or catching some rabbits

i barely see someone in a town even knowing how to fire up a newcomen pump, built oc by the pro players among us & doing the god sent work for all of us randos
kerosine pump, what's that ? many don't even know how to build a bucket & that you need to make a field of milkweed for that first or a saw & shot a goose inbetween
tools are spread throughout the whole town, lately i met one player who tried to throw into trash pit a broken steel tool, because broken, luckily Jason didn't program that into the game

as i said
i usually support everybody who is making some sensible suggestion
but if all i get as reply to a simple solution is more elaborate crafting added to all the elaborate crafting we already have, then i just have enough
the chaos won't disappear with new containers, new craftable objects will be just another elaborate thing waiting for the pros to be made while the rest either stands idle or is running from one urgent workplace to another barely having time to eat, lucky to have a backpack not falling apart

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taking quotes out of context, yeah, it fits

what's the use of talking down ideas of other people while supporting only the own & similar ?

i am tolerant
i support ideas even if i find them not that compelling but because they are important to the other player, but that's just me oc

lack of support for the other is the common theme not only here in forums but also in game
that's why i talk often about what i perceive in game,
egoistic players who care only for what they have in mind, playing as if it was singleplayer among or against AI

some players said, this game is about cooperation & communication
i wish it would, if out of 10 kids are 6 /dying or out of 8 are 5 /dying, that's not social, only an indication of a deeper problem - the rampant egoism
same goes for the other side, being born as baby has the same ratio of being abandoned or even directly killed
& that's only about direct lack of cooperation in a game which stands & falls with its functionality as multiplayer
there is widely spread lack consideration for the effects of the own actions on the other players, no respect middle in a multiplayer

but well, what is to expect from players who play mostly shooters & RPG where they just fight endlessly

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the other thing this game needs is

MORE POWER for the EVE

an Eve should be more than the first female

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