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I do like this house. The window. The blue plank walls. The computer. The guitar!

I'd also like a farming upgrade. Basically, farming could get easier in high tech town. Horse drawn ploughs instead of hoes, a new kind of cistern where you use a bowl to get water instead of a bucket, irrigation, berry picking tools made of iron... And if winter ever becomes a thing, perhaps crops would need to be moved into greenhouses or planted in deserts and jungles during winter. Or perhaps polytunnels could give a higher yield even in summer. Perhaps animals could get more uses. Geese in the fields could help the crops grow faster, for example (since they're weeding).

I have wanted a system like this in the past. The reason I didn't advocate it was that I felt it would place too big of a burden on new players who would give birth to all the known griefers, who would have no other available moms.

In a limited Rift world, it doesn't really matter who gives birth to you anyway. A griefer can always find their way back to any village and wreak havoc everywhere... I doubt griefers mind playing barren Eves either in a world where other people are close by. It would just further solidify the already wide gap in player styles.

If there is no Donkey Town, either Eves need to spawn so far away from other players that they're not likely to meet, requiring a huge Rift, or they need to not be born at all... Or perhaps there could be special rules for Eves like that they can't use war swords unless they have five living descendants, or some such thing.

I agree. I don't play with mods, and it is extremely hard to know what's going on outside my own little bubble - if I'm trying to get something useful done that is.

It seems that with the Rift, griefers don't need to be twins anymore. They find each other easily on the limited map.

Another iconic 'want':

"It is a truth universally acknowledged, that a single man in possession of a good fortune, must be in want of a wife."

Knives have many uses in addition to being a weapon. It would be nice to make special kinds of knives for special purposes only. Like butter knives.

Suggestion:

What if Eves can only use war swords if they have one (or more) living relative age three (or more)? In other words, no family means no ability to wage war.

Well, if it's possible then it seems to me that Jason is not aware of how to do it, rather than that he's unwilling to do this. At least it seems so from this post:

https://onehouronelife.com/forums/viewt … 235#p65235

I lack the technical knowledge to know the answer myself, but at least that seems to be Jason's understanding.

Complaining about complaining is still complaining

Twisted caught a griefer on tape:

https://youtu.be/JpOizeV4yFQ?t=2192

(Time: 36:30)

The interesting part is the family tree. This must be Eve Yellow in the video:

http://lineage.onehouronelife.com/serve … id=5147466

Her last words were "you own this". None of her children lived. Two of them were killed by the Schmock family. Following that link gives this tree:

http://lineage.onehouronelife.com/serve … id=5147466

Some babies here were killed by Eve Yellow, and very few babies got to live. Notice also Catalaya Schmock's final words: "You own this."

Clearly Eve Yellow was part of a griefer nest.

I disagree. In my opinion, griefers can only exist in games or worlds created by humans, not in real life itself. Griefing is to not play the game as intended with the purpose of destroying other people's fun.

Yes, people act that way in real life to, but they have real life reasons for misbehaving. While in the game, griefers do not have in-game reasons.

It can be hard for players to separate griefers from players with in-game reasons, it's true. Sometimes we label any unwanted behavior as griefing. But there already is unwanted behavior that is not griefing - people borrowing the thing you needed, or building or planting stuff in the wrong places, or killing because of a dispute, or even raiding other villages to get needed resources to one's own village. I sincerely cannot see why the game should encourage griefing as well, on top of everything else - as in, people actively destroying the game for others because they take enjoyment in seeing people getting frustrated, and not for in-game reasons.

Nobody should blame Jason for the existence of griefers.

However, Jason is the only one with any real power do do anything about it, even when he says he's giving us the tools to deal with it.

There's at least two things he can do:

- Adopt a philosophy about griefing where griefing isn't a "village job", and be vocal about it. It seems to me that many griefers on the forums at least claim that they're only doing what Jason wants them to do. Now, I do think that the nature of griefers is that they're always going to be trolls no matter what Jason says, but a small shift in Jason's attitude like that would most likely improve relations between him and the player base.

- Implement more robust game mechanics. Like, why can't we repair a fence corner from the inside? Why can't we give our whole family access to a village gate, instead of person to person? Why does there need to be war swords that work only on strangers, it's not like real life mass murderers never kill their own family? Why are there bears at all when they have no function other than being a griefer tool? Couldn't they at least have a use? Or, couldn't they be woken up regularly by themselves, instead of having to be woken by griefers? Or, can't the bear just spawn on the same tile as the person waking it, so that waking a bear costs you your life? Things like that.

And of course, he could ban known griefers, but there are many things he could do before he takes that step.

How?

How are we going to be able to implement a government and a police force?

Ollj killed most of the geese in the last Rift in order to prevent people from making arrows. Let's say someone realized what he was trying to do. They could have... killed him? He would have been born again and continued somewhere else. Built a quick fence around one goose, to protect it?

No; Jason is the one who needs to fix things like that, for example by making resources for arrows easier to come by.

As for the war sword, it is controversial. Killing was implemented partly to give players a way to deal with griefers, but the war sword certainly does not have that function. I'm not saying I think it should go necessarily, but sometimes it feels as if new functionality is implemented because of a vision of how players will use it, and not taking into account how it may be abused by griefers.