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I like to play carter - and if bowls of stew could go in carts I'd definitely share them around town.  It's really weird to me that some bowls can go in the cart but others can't.  I recently plastered a house and was super annoyed when I realized bowls of quicklime or plaster can't be carted.

There's a post on the OHOL suggestions subreddit asking Jason to add at least one more stacking item each week.  We need more cartable bowls of things, too.

Oh, another thing I've started doing.. force feeding people yum foods, then telling them what they just ate. If greifers can do it to destroy yum chains, I can do it to increase them. I usually do this with a bowl of greenbeans or popcorn.  I gave stew to one of my adult daughters recently, and she was really surprised by how many pips she got.  I think that made a convert to the benefits of stew.

Heh, LOL for the High Preist joke. 

Ok, three palm trees, six rubber trees is what we need to leave behind, preferably on the sides of the jungle rather than the middle Good to know.

Glad to hear you are trying out the techniques, Spoonwood.

Hmm, getting high makes it easy to see mosquitos.  I had not thought of that.  But it fits into my ideas of making a mosquito cult, where the priests are mosquito herders.  "This is the sacred wall, no one shall go beyond the sacred wall except the high priests of the mosquito."  "We will commune with the mosquitos by eating this sacred mushroom."

As pein pointed out in his response.."mosquitoes can move only straight in any random directions so basically any of 8 tiles around them"  So they are most likely to only move one tile at a time.  But if anything is occupying that tile (a tree, or even another biome) the code checks if there is an open spot in the correct biome one tile further, for up to five tiles.

The net result is what you mentioned in point 5 - the mosquitos only make small moves.

If you are travelling through cleared jungle (unlikely, unless someone has clear cut it), and can spot them ahead of time, you can dodge the mosquitos by staying a few tiles away from them.

And I've already planted maples in my "backyard" on One City Server.  OCS is a private server run by Greep.  Here's the forum post with the details about how to connect.  There's a lot more info on the One City Server discord, if you are interested.

http://onehouronelife.com/forums/viewtopic.php?id=4868

That does seem like the most food efficient way to raise a baby... but... it's boring.  Both for the mom and the baby.  We're looking to balance the food efficiency with the fun efficiency. 

So I usually eat until I have a modest yum bonus, hold the baby and give them a tour of town.  Then I'll take the hit on the food meter as I pause at temperature efficient spots to eat high pip foods.

So what exactly is wrong with building on edges?  Even if all the biome temperatures were equal, I'd choose to start a camp at the edge of multiple biomes, just for access to a variety of resources.  And some of the most vibrant real life cities fit this description, too.

Based on playing in the cold temps on One City Server - I'd still choose to build in desert, just because of the modest temperature difference.

(P.S. Someone had already taken "Blue Diamond" when I signed up for the OHOL forums, so I added the word Avatar.  I am not an aviator.)

OK, seriously!

How many times do I have to tell you I'm a slow clicker?
It doesn't matter that Steam tells me I've played over 500 hours, and that's not counting my growing AWBZ time. 
I know from HARD experience that I can't out run or outplay the majority of griefers.  I am weaker than the other player, but so what???  I still deserve to play a game I enjoy!

And there are other ways I am stronger...
I can rally a town against them.
I can talk to others about suspicious behavior, while also making them laugh.
I can make it so that the minute the griefer crosses my line they get ten curses, and our local knife wielders are there to take care of the threat.  If that knife wielder is me, so be it.  If it's someone else, all the better, because I suck at clicking them the right way, even during the cooldown!

The fact that it's hard for you to rally a posse and curse a griefer doesn't mean it isn't a useful thing to do.  Just like the fact that I can't manage to stab another player faster than they stab me doesn't mean it isn't useful for griefers to be stabbed. The game is better if we do BOTH.

But I'm better at wielding the curse system than I am at wielding the knives.  And the majority of OHOL casual gamers are more like me.

But my tool needs a little more oomph to it.  Because, it doesn't work if I'm younger than the griefer, and it doesn't work if I'm in a small camp.

And we don't have serial killers, we have serial griefers.  And the current system of stabs and weak curses is just teaching them to be sneakier.  And once they are the only players left on the public server - you won't be able to stab them all.

Crazy Eddie has a similar suggestion active on the github page.  It targets players with a higher number of lifetime curses.  Crazy Eddie has a knack for writing suggestion Jason implements - using Jason's own statements of what his goal is, and making a very logical argument.

https://github.com/jasonrohrer/OneLife/issues/204

I'm all for it, either way.  I'd be happy to spend and hour in DT, if it made it harder for our pro griefers to singlehandedly destroy our playgrounds and not have any consequences.

Ok, he did talk about that.  But the code changes thus far won't make jungles any hotter.  Ok, it'll make jungle edges hotter, if you assume those edges were next to a cooler biome... but that won't change the fact that jungle is the biome that is closest to the ideal temperature. Nor will the other heat calculation changes.

But even if he does push out something for this week that leaves jungles at an ideal temp... it probably won't last, as he's sure to change it in future updates.

Sometime while I was sleeping last night it suddenly occurred to me... I should have given pein a shout out for teaching me most of this.

So here's the thing.  We don't have houses, but we do generally build our towns on the edge of deserts.  No one is taking off their hats when they go back and forth between the desert and the tundra, either. 

You may WANT clothing to matter, but at present, it does not.  We are trying to give you suggestions for how to make it matter to the regular players, but you are talking about the mathematics behind your code.  This feels like a disconnect. 

I loved everything in Ferna's post. 

1. Clothing reduces our exposure to environmental heat sources and sinks - essentially reducing the range of possible heat ranges (like Twisted suggested as a mechanic). Different clothing can be specialized at reducing heat or increasing heat, but either way they have an overall insulating effect.

2.  Rooms in real life come to an average temperature.  We don't experience large differences in temperature over the couple of meters across a room (unless you are standing by the heat source).   A game mechanic that created a single average temperature for an enclosed space would absolutely get me to build more rooms and prefer towns that have buildings. 

3.  I can easily survive yellow fever on my own - as long as I'm wearing less than one loincloth and two shoes.  But I've died in the middle of badlands while wearing a seal fur coat on top of that.  Because that's where the mosquito swarm was.  So I'll never wear more than a loincloth and shoes, even when hunting for iron in badlands surrounded by snow.  The idea of letting clothing reduce the potential temperature range (and thus get less sick from the mosquito bite) is the thing that would change this.

Maybe we need to organize a discord or meetup at a particular time to get a group together to demonstrate pioneering from a big town.  This has worked well for allowing folks to do quad and triplet eve starts (Hi Nepumuk!).  We wouldn't even need to twin, just decide on a target family, and then let folks who are interested in pioneer starts know what your name is...so other pioneers can /die to reach you, instead of /die to get away.

I don't like murder.

I don't watch much tv, because the shows are mostly about murder.  I don't like violent games, and i absolutely hate horror films.  My forms of entertainment are limited by this preference.  If you like killing other characters, why play this game?  There are only two ways to do the deed directly.  There are thousands of games with military themes and opportunities to trick and overpower your opponent.  Why play OHOL for death?

I've killed other characters, when they are being blatantly evil, and yeah, if feels good to get the griefer.  But I don't crave it.

When I pass on my knife I'm likely to say something about using it to protect.  Only kill another if it protects the village.

Killing other characters or causing the death of other characters for fun is definitely ruining the game for me and others.
I know. You don't really care.  But here are some things to think about: 

How many people play this game?  How many people will continue to play this game over the next year?  Will there ever be a big new influx of players? 

How long until there are not enough people playing OHOL for it to be fun for most of the current players?  Where is the tipping point, that server population never comes back from?

You aren't just thinning the population of one poorly built town.  You are thinning out the population of people who play OHOL. 

I deal with annoying people by first teaching them how to do things right, and if it continues, avoiding them.  It's pretty easy to do both.  I deal with poorly built towns by seeing them as a challenge, and occasionally starving to get out of there early.  I deal with boredom in a well run town by finding something to build, or roleplaying with family.

Most of the players deal with these aspects of the game without killing other people's characters.  Why can't you?